Micro synth filter section

General Gear Discussion - effects, synths, etc.

Moderator: Ghost Hip

Post Reply
Bearstripes
experienced
experienced
Posts: 615
Joined: Sat May 25, 2013 10:28 pm

Micro synth filter section

Post by Bearstripes »

Is there a pedal that can just do the filter section of the micro synth? I like how I can control the speed and start and stop points. Also expression control would be rad.
User avatar
JereFuzz
FAMOUS
FAMOUS
Posts: 1116
Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:59 am

Re: Micro synth filter section

Post by JereFuzz »

Putting a wah in front of a chorus can give you a synth-like effect. But you have to rock the wah slowly. The wah is basically an EQ pedal. The chorus makes it sound smooth. This is probably not what you want but check out the Zoom MS-70CDR. The slow attack delay gives a sort of swell effect (start at 3:55): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7aug7FN5JQ

Regards ...
“We learn from history that we do not learn from history.”
― Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
User avatar
jrfox92
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
Posts: 4674
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:23 am

Re: Micro synth filter section

Post by jrfox92 »

From another forum:
Edoardo_P wrote:
Yes, the EHX MicroSynthhas a lot of features, I think I'll look for a one in demo at the store...

Why should I need the MF101 after the Pigtronix Mothership? :mrgreen: :oops: Does it do the stuff of the "filter" section of the Microsynth?

Yes and no. The MF-101 will filter, and will respond to DYNAMICs directly - like an auto wah / qtron - the filter follows your volume envelope (how hard you pick for example). You do have much more control of the filter via CV, but you would need to add a CP-251 . MP-201 to achieve something similar to the EHX.

The difference is that the EHX MicroSynth is a TRIGGERED filter sweep with fixed start and stop frequencies, and a duration for the sweep to take place. You can set it to filter upwards or downwards, or remain fixed. Your volume level simply triggers the sweep to start, and it will not follow your volume level, but it will be re-triggered based on your volume peak.

The EHX can remove the attack of the guitar with a volume envelope slider, producing a fade in effect. Along with a compressor you can really make it sound synth like.

As far as others have stated about it's sterile sound - I can appreciate that statement, it can be sterile at times. However, once you really spend time with it and really work with it's very subtle adjustments you can get really good at dialing in unique sounds that are anything but sterile. When I think of a sterile pedals, companies like BOSS and DOD come to mind, but that's a preference / opinion thing. The EHX interacts very will with other pedals, and doesn't care about buffers / true bypass etc. My Guitar player and me on bass together using the same pedal sound completely different, and both sit in a mix really well.

As with the mothership, adding a filter or EQ pedal (strongly recommend a parametric) after the MicroSynth, you take the pedal so much further.

Again... I use the MicroSynth, and my own other methods to reproduce very synthetic aggressive / hard sounding bass lines. You can achieve *similar* sounds to synths, but only to a point of course. Dead Weather, for example, sounds... Controllable Fuzz, Filter sweeps, and EQ / Compression / level control are the keys to make it happen. That's all I'm saying.
All I can think of that'll do what you want would either have to be modular synth gear or, perhaps, another envelope filter/synth pedal that would probably cost way more than a Micro Synth.
If you're really intent on having a filter that does that sort of thing in a pedal-like format, I'd suggest looking into the Pittsburgh Modular Patch Box and trying to find some Eurorack modules that'll do exclusively what you're looking for.

But it won't be cost effective, if that's something you're worried about. :idk:
Since I always forget:
Inconuucl wrote:You can't kill Strymon, it'll just resurrect 3 days later.
BitchPudding wrote:Despite all my rage, I am still just eating tacos in a cage.
Inconuucl wrote:Welcome to ilf, we have three jokes and twelve posters. <3
User avatar
Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
IAMILFFAMOUS
IAMILFFAMOUS
Posts: 4049
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:01 pm
Location: rochester, ny
Contact:

Re: Micro synth filter section

Post by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D. »

dwarfcraft ARF maybe?
User avatar
daseb
experienced
experienced
Posts: 720
Joined: Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:42 am

Re: Micro synth filter section

Post by daseb »

something like a MS20 filter with a cv expression pedal? The frostwave resonator could do this but uh, you could probably buy two micro synths for what they go for now.
Bearstripes
experienced
experienced
Posts: 615
Joined: Sat May 25, 2013 10:28 pm

Re: Micro synth filter section

Post by Bearstripes »

Thanks for all the replys, looks like I'm just gonna stick with mimic to synth then!
User avatar
Dark Barn
FAMOUS
FAMOUS
Posts: 1801
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:12 am

Re: Micro synth filter section

Post by Dark Barn »

Iron Ether Xerograph Deluxe can do most of this, with a few disclaimers. To define both the start and stop frequencies you need to have an expression pedal connected like the Moog Ep-3 which has a user variable attenuator knob. You control the start frequency (for up sweep) on the Xero and the stop on the Ep-3. For envelope speed you only have a fast/slow switch, not a variable control like on the EHX and the speeds might not be to your liking. You do get a few bonus options like clean volume and 2 pole/4 pole.

I think it is pretty uncommon to have a user definable start and stop frequency on a pedal filter.
I've been searchin' for the dolphins in the sea.

The Weak in Review: Weak Arguments Revue
Post Reply