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Falstad Circuit Sim

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Love of my life.

http://www.falstad.com/circuit/

and the newish, limited but cool, analog filter sim, fun for looking at the frequency response of high resonance circuits

http://www.falstad.com/afilter/
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Re: Falstad Circuit Sim

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Wow that's pretty cool - even though I don't know enough yet to use it properly, the list of circuits has a few things on it that I'm trying to understand and hopefully this will help me. Thanks for posting it.
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Re: Falstad Circuit Sim

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Yeah, he's made a great set of examples. It's easy to save circuits as text files or links, too. Here's a superfuzz octave circuit, for example:

http://www.falstad.com/circuit/circuitj ... 25+0+-1%0A

Or, the text to copy paste into the analog filter sim, for a bee baa tone circuit:
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g 384 224 384 256 0
170 176 96 144 96 3 20.0 1000.0 5.0 0.1
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o 2 16 0 34 5.0 9.765625E-5 0 -1 in
o 0 16 0 34 2.5 9.765625E-5 1 -1 out
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Re: Falstad Circuit Sim

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ltosJkoY2g[/youtube]

Import this one into http://www.falstad.com/afilter/
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x 176 391 691 394 0 12 input and input added to feedback must be in phase at summing node for unity passband gain
x 513 73 1008 76 0 12 add equal parts filtered and unfiltered signal in feedback loop to retain unity passband gain
x 832 93 1008 96 0 12 feedback gain of 8 for oscillation
x 495 54 1008 57 0 12 60 degree phase shift per stage at resonant frequency instead of typical 4-pole 45 degree shift
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3-Pole, 18 dB/oct low pass cascade filter, yes it's possible, but I've never seen it done anywhere. Basically a modified phase-shift oscillator, which is what the classic Roland (and others) 4-Pole lowpass circuit is, too, but with 4 stages. This could easily be implemented with OTA's for voltage control. Use 2 LM13700 chips and you could use a stage for voltage controlled resonance, and get nice sine shaping at the same time.
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Re: Falstad Circuit Sim

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morange wrote:3-Pole, 18 dB/oct low pass cascade filter, yes it's possible, but I've never seen it done anywhere. Basically a modified phase-shift oscillator, which is what the classic Roland (and others) 4-Pole lowpass circuit is, too, but with 4 stages. This could easily be implemented with OTA's for voltage control. Use 2 LM13700 chips and you could use a stage for voltage controlled feedback, and get nice sine shaping at the same time.


Dang, you just kinda pulled off one of my ideas with the wave shaping! haha...great minds think alike! Been messing around with the LM13700 myself a bit...cheers , keep up the awesome stuff!
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Re: Falstad Circuit Sim

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Old Roland trick, like adding input in feedback gain for unity passband. Check out the Mutable Instruments Shruthi 4-pole filter. Great minds think . . . like Roland.

Some Roland filters used diodes to ground for the shaping, the SH-101, for example; could be interesting to compare the two.
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this site was really helpful for me to visual wtf is going on. thanks for posting!
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Re: Falstad Circuit Sim

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Another thing I've noticed lately, is the pop up Java version of the program runs smoother than the new version that runs in the window.
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