Vocal effects live...especially deep reverbs

[TOMKAT_BKLYN]

I play in a band with my girlfriend and she has vocal effects. We tried using the tc helicon create xt since it had xlr in, out, and a dry out for the soundguy to blend and liked that it could save presets but honestly, it fed back like crazy no matter what and was a nightmare to most soundguys. It was also a nightmare to figure out how to get the most out of its different settings.
Now what we use is just a xlr to 1/4' adapter > ehx holy grail plus > boss dd3 > line 6 DL4 for looping > di
This set up works well and it was effects we had lying around.
Thinking about adding the keeley 30ms for doubling.

[rfurtkamp]

If dynamic mic and it has enough gain on its own, yes.

[JonnyAngle]

you can use a DI box backwards to convert it to 1/4"

[D.o.S.]

What's yer band?

[PeteeBee]

My punk band is called Cat Shit for now, but that isn't permanent.

I'm thinking about this for a different project that I am calling Tape Artifacts. Hopefully have some stuff on bandcamp soonish

Edit: unless you meant tomkat's band. I'm curious about that too.

[TOMKAT_BKLYN]

My girlfriend's band is called Eddi Front. Here's a video of her using the tc heliconc create xt for two different vocal sounds, a lo fi then a super reverb. Thats me on the korg looking stupid.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MiLiPSgcCI[/youtube]

[D.o.S.]

Really like the Super Reverb (I assume that's what it is at 1:40ish?).

[DRodriguez]

Opinion from an audio engineer. I absolutely do not mind people bringing their own FX.

Things I'd much rather do:

• I would highly prefer to use my own if I can recreate the FX you brought, just so I could send an already eq'd, compressed, etc vocal to the FX.
• I could also send your pedal my vox feed from my board to achieve the same thing but with your pedal.
• Last resort would be to use a splitter to get a clean feed of the vocal and a completely wet version of the pedal.

And then just run me through how much Effected vs Clean vocal you want during soundcheck.

I am primarily a studio guy though, but I imagine the same would be preferable live.

[TOMKAT_BKLYN]

Really like the Super Reverb (I assume that's what it is at 1:40ish?).

yeah in the tc helicon create xt you can pick between like 20 reverbs and modify them a bit so that was the biggest sounding stage reverb and i almost maxed out the decay. it was such a pain figuring out sounds on that thing though cause all the patches are labeled by a zero indexed number and letter system and you have to keep looking at like a spreadsheet of all the sounds. We have another live video coming out soon where we just used the holy grail and dl4. I'll post it when its out.
Also my experience with using heavy reverbs on vocals live is that you cant really get it in your monitor much cause it feeds back pretty easily. So it's ideal if you're using one mic to send dry and wet signals to front of house so you can get the dry in your monitor if you need to hear yourself sing.
I also have a friend who uses a small mixer that has an aux loop and she send that to her pedals and controls the wet/dry mix from her board.

[Dramatis Persona]

My girlfriend's band is called Eddi Front. Here's a video of her using the tc heliconc create xt for two different vocal sounds, a lo fi then a super reverb. Thats me on the korg looking stupid.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MiLiPSgcCI[/youtube]

Her\Your band sounds very cool, what effect does she use for bitcrush\samplerate-reduce her guitar?

Sorry, I'm a dork, I was listening the video with my ASIO drivers crushed...

[TOMKAT_BKLYN]

My girlfriend's band is called Eddi Front. Here's a video of her using the tc heliconc create xt for two different vocal sounds, a lo fi then a super reverb. Thats me on the korg looking stupid.
[youtube][/youtube]

Her\Your band sounds very cool, what effect does she use for bitcrush\samplerate-reduce her guitar?

Sorry, I'm a dork, I was listening the video with my ASIO drivers crushed...

Thanks! Hhaha did it sound cool?

[jrmy]

Just saw this band play last weekend, and it seemed relevant: the frontguy had a whole pedalboard up on a little TV table just for his vox. In fact, he used effects more on his voice than on his guitar, which was mostly just overdriven. It was pretty badass. I asked him about that after the set, and he said that he just evolved the technique, because he liked to tweak the knobs, but couldn't see the pedals so well when they were on the ground, so over time he just switched 'em up to the vocals. And in this song, he doesn't even use his guitar!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zq9eCwOGsU[/youtube]

He definitely had a TC Flashback on there, as well as a drive or two and some kind of flanger. I didn't get a good look at the verbs, alas - pretty sure he had more than one. It seemed like he had a 6 - 8 pedal setup on the vocal board...