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Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:36 pm
by Blurillaz
Go :cool:

edit: Look up basically any track off the Democrazy LP by (you guessed it) Damon Albarn for the drum machine sound im lookin for.

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:45 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
off the top of my head.

samplz:
sp 202. sp 303. akai s900/s950/s612 and a few other akais around that era. ensoniq's got a couple, casio sk1, the sk1 rival keyboard (forget whats its called, made by yamaha maybe???)

drumz:
i think many drum machines could be considered "lofi" isnt that kinda like their steez?.....for the sake of naming a few,any older roland, mfb series, oh and i just got my hands on a boss dr202 which looks like an sp202 but is drum machines, pretty cool.
oberheim dmx, which is beyond badass. i really like some of the shitty drum sounds on crappy keyboards. sometimes there just bleeps, very lofi.

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:47 pm
by Blurillaz
I was just checkin out that DR202 right before checking this thread actually.
Mecanikill? said the SP-202/303 aren't good, but I still want infos anyway. How long is the sampling time?

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:53 pm
by Blurillaz
Found a video of one of the songs on Youtube. check out da drumses

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHOTw_XCOvg[/youtube]



I would tell you to go get the album, but it cost me $100 shipped here.... :eek:

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:53 pm
by thebarkpetition
Yamaha DD-6 reigns. Alesis HR-16 isn't bad either.
The lowest-fi (lo-fiest?) drum machine of all time is the Wurlitzer Side Man that I have in my workshop. All tube drum machine FTW! :joy:
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Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:59 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
what do he mean by "not good"?

i really like the sp's, they are limiting in certain ways so it kinda depends on how u plan on using them. for me, i like the limitations and it really forced me to see and do things differently, kinda hard to explain. i could see someone thinkg they are crappy and another thinking they are the shit (shit meaning good). i think the sound is dope and the lo-fi sampling modes are awesome. 202 has like 4 different sampling modes, 303 has 3.

202 sampling time is : 33 secs at highest sample rate(31.25khz) to 4min 20 sec at lowest (3.91khz). u can increase w/ 2 or 4 mb smartmedia cards but they are muoy expensive.

303 sample time is:
Internal Memory (Times Approximate)
STANDARD: 31 sec, LONG: 63 sec, LO-FI: 3 min, 10 sec
Memory Cards (Times Approximate)
8 MB
STANDARD: 4 min, LONG: 8 min, LO-FI: 25 min
16 MB
STANDARD: 8 min, LONG: 16 min, LO-FI: 50 min
32 MB
STANDARD: 16 min, LONG: 33 min, LO-FI: 101 min
64 MB
STANDARD: 33 min, LONG: 66 min, LO-FI: 202 min

roland says 64mb is the max but i've gotten a 128 MB card to recognize in my 303 so you just double the 64mb times.

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:01 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
http://www.vintagesynth.com would be a good website to sift thru...lots of old school units and info there.

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:10 pm
by iblamesummers
Casio RZ-1 FTW. Prince Paul keeps one in his studio. BOO-YAH JIM !!!

:omg: :love: :omg:

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:29 pm
by curt
The YouTube video above reminds me of a Roland TR-606 or the MFB drum computers Sticks mentioned.

The ultimate lo-fi sampler was the Ensoniq Mirage - 8 bits, tons of noise and grit, analog filters. The Akai S-900 and Emu Emax were both 12 bit samplers, less grit but a real punchy sound. As far as drum machines, the Emu SP-12/SP-1200 were the classic lo-fi sampling drum machines, but the Casio RZ-1 is very cool too. The Oberheim DX and DMX sound great, but you need the Prommer (separate) to sample and burn EPROMs (I miss my DX and regret not buying the 909 EPROMs for it :grumpy: ). None of these have great user interfaces by today's standards, but the limitations force you to be creative. Also, they sound grittier than the drums in that YouTube video to me.

Here is a fun site to check out the sound of some old drum machines:
http://www.keyboardmuseum.org/d_machines/vdrums.html

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:47 am
by iblamesummers
anybody narrowed down or figured out which drum-machine Blurillaz is asking about. that Youtube vid made my CPU crash.

:facepalm:

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:50 am
by Blurillaz
iblamesummers wrote:anybody narrowed down or figured out which drum-machine Blurillaz is asking about. that Youtube vid made my CPU crash.

:facepalm:

Tee Hee i made blamesies computer asplode. :joy:

Maybe I'll just watch bananaz a couple more times today (even though I just watched it twice) and look for drum machines in the background....

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:56 am
by curt
iblamesummers wrote:anybody narrowed down or figured out which drum-machine Blurillaz is asking about. that Youtube vid made my CPU crash.

:facepalm:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHbckGWz-fo[/youtube]
:idk:

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:29 pm
by Blurillaz
the tr-606 looks sick, i hope it's not as pricey as the tr-808...

Re: Lo-Fi drum machines and samplers?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:42 pm
by Astricii
Blurillaz wrote:the tr-606 looks sick, i hope it's not as pricey as the tr-808...


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