Small Clone intensity help

[Roseweave]

I'm looking to make the Small Clone more useful to me. Ideally I'd like a setting that's in between the two, one is too weak for my use(though pretty) and the other one is too sea sick, wobbly. I found a trim pot inside but it isn't doing anything. I've been connecting up random points and I found one setting that seemed to make it more extreme.

Ideally what I'd like to do is either reduce the insenity of the high mode; or increase the intensity. Is it possible to do this just by soldering between points etc.? It seems like it should be, if I have it so the longer BBD signal doesn't meet up with the original signal or something.

I can't really do anyhing complex here. I could probably order some basic parts but I have very little in the way of soldering skills.

[Scruffie]

I'm just about to build my own small clone so I might be able to give some help.

That trimmer is the bias trimmer, you'll want to be leaving that where it is and if you have a vintage unit with a SAD512 for the love of god leave the unit alone, those chips are as rare as... something that isn't a much more available MN3007.

Well the depth switch can be modded to be a pot... if you take out the 4.7k resistor connected to Pin 1 of the LM358 and connected to that is a 2.7k resistor, take that out aswell, now take a 10k Pot and place the middle lug to the 39k 10uF connection near it and the other to pin 1 of the LM358, here's a schematic to follow http://www.tonepad.com/getFile.asp?id=97

As you can see on that page, there's a schematic for a cap switching mod, changing that 150pF capacitor from Pin 1 of the CD4047 will change the depth of the unit aswell.

Also there's a 2.2uF Tantalum coming from the LM358 Pin 2, increasing that will lower the speed of the unit, even into a flanger like sweep at higher values of around 6uF

Hope that's of some use.

[Roseweave]

I'm just about to build my own small clone so I might be able to give some help.

That trimmer is the bias trimmer, you'll want to be leaving that where it is and if you have a vintage unit with a SAD512 for the love of god leave the unit alone, those chips are as rare as... something that isn't a much more available MN3007.

Well the depth switch can be modded to be a pot... if you take out the 4.7k resistor connected to Pin 1 of the LM358 and connected to that is a 2.7k resistor, take that out aswell, now take a 10k Pot and place the middle lug to the 39k 10uF connection near it and the other to pin 1 of the LM358, here's a schematic to follow http://www.tonepad.com/getFile.asp?id=97

As you can see on that page, there's a schematic for a cap switching mod, changing that 150pF capacitor from Pin 1 of the CD4047 will change the depth of the unit aswell.

Also there's a 2.2uF Tantalum coming from the LM358 Pin 2, increasing that will lower the speed of the unit, even into a flanger like sweep at higher values of around 6uF

Hope that's of some use.

Is there any way to decrease the intensity just by connecting/deconnecting two points though? I can't really drill holes and stuff.

And it's a reissue Small Clone. Erm I might need to reset the bias pot though... not sure what position it was in originally.

[Scruffie]

Don't worry about the trimmer, it either choruses or it doesn't pretty much.

You wouldn't need to drill holes to replace parts inside with other values to change the intensity, but I can't think of any mods that involve jumpering or lifting to lower the intensity no...

[Roseweave]

Can the Electric Mistress do decent Chorusy sounds? I was thinking of getting a DEM for Flange/Chorus and maybe turning the SC into a Vibrato... I'll see. I might still get an M9 but that doesn't model a Small Clone or a Mistress.

[Scruffie]

I haven't tried a Electric Mistress myself but most flangers will do a good chorus sound so i'd guess it will yeah, they're both using the same BBD chip.

Yeah turning a small clone into a vibrato is easy, just put a SPST switch that either makes the 22k or breaks it so you can go from chorus to vibrato.

Edit: about 6:15 here, he demos the chorus sounds of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC7KEXo9 ... L&index=43

[henrygrik]

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