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I'm looking for an affordable amp to get Colour Haze and early Queens of the Stone Age tones at home. This dude in the video below gets pretty damn close, but he's using a Hamstead 60 which is unbelievably expensive. Is there anything like that amp that's affordable? Maybe a Traynor YBA-1... I thought about just getting an Ampeg VT-40, but using an attenuator to make it playable at home is almost impossible since the speakers are hardwired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_z5y3IjQbo

I'm looking at pics of the ampegs and the speakers arent hardwired? I think that an ampeg would be a good investment as they seem to just rise in value. I think any decent tube amp that distorts does the kwahtza thing if you use enough EQ pedals to boost the mids and play with too thin strings.






we all know what you really want tho

qersty wrote:I'm looking at pics of the ampegs and the speakers arent hardwired? I think that an ampeg would be a good investment as they seem to just rise in value. I think any decent tube amp that distorts does the kwahtza thing if you use enough EQ pedals to boost the mids and play with too thin strings.






we all know what you really want tho

I thought the speakers were wired to the chassis on the Vt-40's with the top panel... So I could use an attenuator with that amp? And you fucking got me, but the Gorilla has wayyyy too much tone for me. I couldn't handle it.

I was also thinking maybe a tweed bassman or super reverb with an eq pedal might work...

I didn't realize there were differen't models of vt-40. I think the ones I looked at were front panel (are they very different tho?).

No way in hell a super reverb is gonna work for that kinda thing. Way too clean

I had a VT-40 (early-mid '70s - the later ones had a built in 'overdrive' circuit and maybe there was one with a master volume?) - it definitely had speaker outs, I used it with a Fryette Power Station to keep my ears from exploding.

The Orange CR120 might be able to do this? Solid state, but my impression playing one in a shop was that the dirty channel with the gain dialed back would be good for stoner-y stuff.

jirodreamsofdank wrote:I had a VT-40 (early-mid '70s - the later ones had a built in 'overdrive' circuit and maybe there was one with a master volume?) - it definitely had speaker outs, I used it with a Fryette Power Station to keep my ears from exploding.

The Orange CR120 might be able to do this? Solid state, but my impression playing one in a shop was that the dirty channel with the gain dialed back would be good for stoner-y stuff.

Oh sweet! I'll have to check out the CR120,... I love Orange amps, just thought they'd be a little too fuzzy and overdriven for that sound.

I hear that clip and I hear something on the tweed Bassman-JTM-45-Marshall-1986 continuum. The old tweed eq that became Marshall’s “bass” eq when they made the “lead” amps brighter, not the more modern stuff that they were messing with by the 80s.

On the cheap, I would check out the higher powered Fender Bass Breakers. I don’t know that the lowered power ones can’t do this, but the higher powered ones should be in the right zone. Traynor YBA heads keep creeping up in price whenever I look, so I’m not sure they’re a cheap option anymore.

I had a Kustom Defender Amp for quite some time, amazing platform amp, affordable too, maybe check it out? https://kustom.com/product-detail/?id=2050

Gone Fission wrote:I hear that clip and I hear something on the tweed Bassman-JTM-45-Marshall-1986 continuum. The old tweed eq that became Marshall’s “bass” eq when they made the “lead” amps brighter, not the more modern stuff that they were messing with by the 80s.

On the cheap, I would check out the higher powered Fender Bass Breakers. I don’t know that the lowered power ones can’t do this, but the higher powered ones should be in the right zone. Traynor YBA heads keep creeping up in price whenever I look, so I’m not sure they’re a cheap option anymore.

That's what I was hearing as well. I mean it is a 60 watt, EL34 amp so it's definitely based on a Marshall of some sort. I listened to some other clips of that amp and it seems like it has a flat eq and honestly, there's no 3D quality or anything that blows me away for that price. I don't understand the cost, just seems like a very expensive pedal platform.

Honestly, the Gorilla is the choice, since it's flat and unencumbered (and tiny), and the majority of the tone can be achieved with dark boost or two (anything that is lean on mids and high on bass & highs, a la the PDF-1). Unless you're going to play a club anytime soon, you won't need much power or volume, anyway.

The LRG demos guy has become a little intolerable over the years, but he DI's everything anyways, so who cares how great his expensive amp sounds through expensive microphones, into a DI and shoved through the YT compression system?

I mean tubes are great and all, but there are probably enough bass-leaning solid state heaps that are for sale for pennies near your person that would only take a bit of knob twiddling + a few pedals to get into the QOTSA range for cheap

coupleonapkins wrote:Honestly, the Gorilla is the choice, since it's flat and unencumbered (and tiny), and the majority of the tone can be achieved with dark boost or two (anything that is lean on mids and high on bass & highs, a la the PDF-1). Unless you're going to play a club anytime soon, you won't need much power or volume, anyway.

The LRG demos guy has become a little intolerable over the years, but he DI's everything anyways, so who cares how great his expensive amp sounds through expensive microphones, into a DI and shoved through the YT compression system?

I mean tubes are great and all, but there are probably enough bass-leaning solid state heaps that are for sale for pennies near your person that would only take a bit of knob twiddling + a few pedals to get into the QOTSA range for cheap

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qersty wrote:

coupleonapkins wrote:I mean tubes are great and all, but there are probably enough bass-leaning solid state heaps that are for sale for pennies near your person that would only take a bit of knob twiddling + a few pedals to get into the QOTSA range for cheap

When I seek an amplifier... I like to seek a species closely related to humans

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