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I have a Russian reissue at the moment and I love it, but over the last two years with it I'm looking for an update in the near future.

Basically looking for something based off the Russian but with more available low end, fuzz/sustain, control over eq (mids) and tone and even clarity if that's an option. Mostly used with guitars in C and B Standard.

Also, I'm very open to other suggestions as well and always looking for different pedals to check out and look into.

I'm interested in anyone's opinions or experiences with these mainly at the moment:

1. Abominable Electronics Hail Satan

2. Frost Giant Soma
(Massif with familiar control seems interesting, though not sure how close to a Muff it may be)

3. Frost Giant Saint Of Sufferance (Looks and sounds good, but seems same controls as the standard Muff)

4. Blackarts LSTR (Their closest to a Muff from what I understand?)

5. Blackarts Badascan
(Really don't have much info on this one though it looks great)

6. Fuzzlord MF4

7. Fuzzhugger Doom Bloom

Forgive me for any ignorance in advance, I am a bit overwhelmed lmao. Thanks everyone for any input!

Edit 11/22/20: Through the help and guidance of you guys, think we are down to three:

1) Blunderbuss
2) Musket
3) Supercollider

.... none of which were on the original list lmao

Pharaoh or Supercollider IMHO. Or a Hoof / Cloven Hoof —all of these are super-Muffs that give you control over mids/scooping.

mathias wrote:Pharaoh or Supercollider IMHO. Or a Hoof / Cloven Hoof —all of these are super-Muffs that give you control over mids/scooping.

It's funny, I almost "purposely" left out the Pharaoh because its so tried and true in a way. I was almost looking for something a touch out of the norm lol. Any experience with the LSTR or Badascan? The Green Pharaoh I see from time to time on Reverb is interesting, any difference from a standard Pharaoh?

I had a LSTR and a Pharaoh and the LSTR is way more "different" to a normal big muff. Really high gain, interesting tone stack, a bit like uh, rockier? less smooth? Describing things with words is hard haha

I know there’s hype and everything, but if you see it on a lot of boards, there must be something to it. Tone is in the fingerbones anyways

Haven't tried the others, but I love my Abominable Hail Satan! The LEDs certainly give some clarity I'd say.

Just by them all

you know you want too

Based on your list and what you’re looking for, it seems like SSBS Mini or Fuck od would be a good choice?

Chase Bliss Factory.

mathias wrote:I know there’s hype and everything, but if you see it on a lot of boards, there must be something to it. Tone is in the fingerbones anyways

Absolutely to both lmao I've added the Supercollider to the list.

Think I'm pretty much down to either a Pharoah, Supercollider, or MF4, and the Doom Bloom is super interesting... is it kinda its own deal or based off something else?

Thanks for the input everybody, much appreciated!

The Doom Bloom is excellent! I am not sure what the Algal/Doom Blooms are based on, if anything but they sound kinda different to most other things I've tried. Can stay pretty clear even with high gain, low tunings etc. I love mine and highly recommend it.

IDK why it didn't occur to me before haha

What. A musket or blunderbuss is exactly what you need. Or a supercollider perhaps. But a musket/blunderbuss is exactly what you are asking for

The pregain conrol on them make the gain in those pedals go from 9 to 12. It is something else. Obviously, you can push any muff as much as you want and it will sound better. The mids control make it excellent. I don't know about the low end however, the supercollider might just bring the bass a bit more. Either option will make you happy, but you gots to push the supercollider with something in front

Oh yeah that is also a good call haha.

i’m anti-muffs with extra knobs, so i'm gonna shout out the russian version of the dope priest and
the immortal fuzz war/it's big brother apocalypse

I’ve got a Supercollider and am still debating getting a Blunderbuss. Or maybe building one if the component values are online somewhere since I have a stack of Russian Muff PCBs from pedalpcb from years ago.