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What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:16 pm
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
My current go to strategy of either a) awkward silence, or b) excruciating feedback, are both fine—but some variation would be nice. Any suggestions?
Saw a rig rundown with Phil from Caspian, and he mentioned using a looper between songs. For the first time ever, I now see actual value in a looper pedal (—i.e. for myself; I get why other people use them).
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:32 pm
by MechaGodzilla
i would make sure
- contact points (nut + saddles) don't bind the strings and are properly lubricated
- the method of stringing around tuning pegs is optimal. over/under with minimal wraps on through-hole pegs, fender split tuners tend to be fine whatever you do, so long as it's neat.
- any vibrato unit is of adequate quality and set up to return to pitch consistently
if i still had tuning problems after that, i guess something must be loose somewhere? idk
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:37 pm
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
I tune a lot because I use different tunings, not because my guitar detunes. Good points though!
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:30 pm
by MechaGodzilla
ohhh. different guitars then!
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:32 pm
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
Hah! Having a guitar per song is orders of magnitude too decadent for me to consider even if I could afford to.
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:41 pm
by Dandolin
offer aspiring mimes the opportunity to strut their stuff? Must be flexible enough to get out of the invisible box and off stage at a moment's notice....

Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:48 pm
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
Maybe we could have jugglers. Emo Summer would read aloud from The Catcher in the Rye and other appropriately emo clichés, so that's another option.
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:53 pm
by Dandolin

now you're cooking with gas....
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:18 pm
by backwardsvoyager
- if you have bandmates, go silent while one of them plays an interlude to give people's ears a break
- trigger samples between songs (as simple as hooking your phone up to the PA with a music player app if you want it to be)
- peds with random playback functions - e.g. on the Red Panda Tensor you can record a 4 second loop and set the range for it to playback at varying pitch/speed/timestretch
Those are my favourite approaches
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:33 am
by Dowi
I don't change tunings a lot between songs except going drop D occasionally.
Usually I trigger some loops and then tune, or I speak and say stupid things while I tune. Another useful thing is to plan your setlist in the most useful way so that you have to change tuning only a limited number of times. For example I go: standard tuned songs-->drop d songs--> drop d with B dropped in A# --> end.
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:44 am
by coldbrightsunlight
Bandmates, banter. Ultimately it's better to have silence than pointless noodling/bad sounds.
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:08 am
by chromandre
no I like the noises! has to be freaky though, I had some patches on multi effect that could do destructing loops with stereo panning but I have been experimenting with CBA blooper.
different tuning for every song so I'm seriously considering having 2 guitars, and strategically bunching the tunings that are closer together. sometimes it takes an entire minute to properly get from one tuning to the other its just a total waste of stage time.
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:19 am
by MechaGodzilla
VREEEEVROOOOOW wrote:Hah! Having a guitar per song is orders of magnitude too decadent for me to consider even if I could afford to.
i'd probably rework some parts then to make the most of a couple of tunings. hell, i have done that. lots of weird tunings are good but sometimes you have to make the most of what you've got, and sometimes what you've got is EADGBE.
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:21 am
by coldbrightsunlight
^^^^
Yeah but structuring sets so that you tune less will definitely help. I used to be in a band with a lot of instrument swapping. We made our setlists up to minimise it because it can take ages
Re: What to do when you have to tune a lot during shows?
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:18 pm
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
coldbrightsunlight wrote:Bandmates, banter. Ultimately it's better to have silence than pointless noodling/bad sounds.
Well there is the option of having nice sounds instead of bad sounds, which I wanna explore.
We did play a couple of shows with a recording of a stream in the woods (which we recorded ourselves) playing in the background, and whenever we weren't making a bunch of noise, that was on.
Silence generally works fairly well, but sometimes people start talking, and I think that's annoying. Not as a musician really, but whenever I'm in the audience, seeing a band like God's Pee or MONO, it always irritates me a tiny bit when people start chatting.
MechaGodzilla wrote:i'd probably rework some parts then to make the most of a couple of tunings. hell, i have done that. lots of weird tunings are good but sometimes you have to make the most of what you've got, and sometimes what you've got is EADGBE.
Yeah I see how that'd be attractive to people. Personally, I'd rather spend a moment to tune, even in silence, than do that.
Not a fan of ordering the setlist based on convenience either. Although sometimes it ends up somewhat convenient just as a result of songs in similar tuning fitting well together. The setlist for our next show is DADFAD -> DADGBD -> CGCGBC.