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Effect Loop Pedal

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:02 pm
by Blood_mountain
Hi Chums,
Is there such a thing as an effect loop pedal? Not a looping pedal, not a feedback looper, but a pedal that would essentially act as an effect loop for a pedal that doesn’t have an effect loop? We’ll say I have a delay pedal without an effect loop or hardware insert option, and want to add some modulation to the repeats, but not to the clean signal - Is there a go between device that can accomplish that, or would it require modification?

Re: Effect Loop Pedal

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:17 pm
by goroth
No, because you are wanting the stuff to be added at a point that is in the circuit. So unless you mod it you aren't going to get at those points.

What could work would be a parallel blender
https://www.one-control.com/switcher/mi ... bjf-buffer

At least with a delay that will allow you to run clean and then set the delay at full wet and put a vibrato pedal after it, in the wet loop.
Or, put the delay first, then split your signal into the blender and put a vibrato in the loop. Pretty sure you could get some cool sounds with this. I've got one just so I can use the tails function.

https://www.one-control.com/switcher/mo ... bjf-buffer

That's a similar product which does things slightly differently. Could be fun too.

Re: Effect Loop Pedal

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:20 pm
by Blood_mountain
goroth wrote:No, because you are wanting the stuff to be added at a point that is in the circuit. So unless you mod it you aren't going to get at those points.

What could work would be a parallel blender
https://www.one-control.com/switcher/mi ... bjf-buffer

At least with a delay that will allow you to run clean and then set the delay at full wet and put a vibrato pedal after it, in the wet loop.
Or, put the delay first, then split your signal into the blender and put a vibrato in the loop. Pretty sure you could get some cool sounds with this. I've got one just so I can use the tails function.

https://www.one-control.com/switcher/mo ... bjf-buffer

That's a similar product which does things slightly differently. Could be fun too.
That’s what I thought. Thanks for the info and the suggestions!

Re: Effect Loop Pedal

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:46 pm
by voerking
if the effect you want to add an effects loop to can get 100% wet, you could use a bypass looper with a clean blend like the (long discontinued Barge Concepts VFB-2 -which also acted as a feedback loop), if desired.
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/ba ... 2#pictures

(basically, what was already said... :facepalm: )

Re: Effect Loop Pedal

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:29 am
by goroth
I interpreted effect loop as in an effect insert. The solution I suggested would be parallel. But I'm fairly certain it'll allow the creation of some rad sounds.

Re: Effect Loop Pedal

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:42 am
by Blood_mountain
goroth wrote:I interpreted effect loop as in an effect insert. The solution I suggested would be parallel. But I'm fairly certain it'll allow the creation of some rad sounds.
Yeah, effect insert is sort of what I was asking about, but I appreciate the limitations and alternate suggestions and may pick up a Pladask Kniv at some point to mess around and experiment.

Re: Effect Loop Pedal

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:14 pm
by Blood_mountain
vidret wrote:
goroth wrote:I interpreted effect loop as in an effect insert. The solution I suggested would be parallel. But I'm fairly certain it'll allow the creation of some rad sounds.
with a matrix mixer one could send the signal to a delay that has the repeats go through any other pedal without the dry, so it would in effect become an effect insert, in this use case.

pladask kniv is what I would suggest as well, good stuff
I should basically just get all of the Pladask devices I guess. My kids probably don't want to go to university anyway.

Re: Effect Loop Pedal

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:27 pm
by fcknoise
You could move to where pladask is and do both

Re: Effect Loop Pedal

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:09 pm
by Blood_mountain
fcknoise wrote:You could move to where pladask is and do both
Haha, very astute!

Re: Effect Loop Pedal

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:24 pm
by eatyourguitar
you need a delay pedal with %100 wet out and %100 dry out. it is important that there be no dry in the wet and no wet in the dry. you put a mixer before the input of the delay. you run your dirt or whatever after the wet out. run the dirt into the mixer with the guitar on another input. if you don't have a dry out, you can do this with buffers and a Y cable.