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Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:57 pm
by Errant Tiger
So I'm trying to put together a small "guitar-forward improv" board (as opposed to the ~20 pedal "sound scuplture" board) and I think I'm narrowing it down.
The only thing that's tripping me up is the modulation spot, currently occupied by the Behringer FX600. Which is fine, especially because I already own it, but I don't love it. So I'm looking for suggestions for a small(er than the Behringer) multi-mod. Preferably with top jacks. Notes:
1. I don't think you can tell in this pic but all pedals are as close together as they can go, and the Slo is right on the edge of the board.
2. The Phase 95 is only there to show how much (or how little) extra room there is.
3. I basically only "need" chorus/flange/phase; if it weren't for the side jacks and the fact that I prefer a more MXR-type phaser, the Mod11 would be perfect.
4. If it didn't cost so much, the Southampton Utility Knife would be absolutely perfect.
5. If any knows a good mini-tuner that would fit where that Phase 95 is (like a PolyTune Mini? but for the side jacks), please chime in. I'm also thinking about getting a PolyTune mini, running a small patch cord to it from my guitar, and a longer cord out to the board. Crazy? (I want to be able to mute the signal when tuning, else I'd just get a clip-on).
Anyway, thanks in advance as always, O wise enablers.
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:51 pm
by 01010111
I came here to say Zoia, but that is the least improve friendly pedal there is. Bitquest would get my vote for a solid multi-mod. Is there enough room on top of the looper pedal to set that Boss chromatic tuner module? It looks like there’s a lot of space up there?
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:12 pm
by Errant Tiger
01010111 wrote:I came here to say Zoia, but that is the least improve friendly pedal there is. Bitquest would get my vote for a solid multi-mod. Is there enough room on top of the looper pedal to set that Boss chromatic tuner module? It looks like there’s a lot of space up there?
Yeah, definitely not a Zoia. Nor a Zoom.
Which Boss do you mean?
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:16 pm
by 01010111
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... atic-tuner
I want to buy one, but I don’t really need a tuner that often.
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:16 pm
by backwardsvoyager
Bitquest is great.
I'd recommend an Alexander pedal on account of them being cheaper, and having presets/tap/ramp functions etc.
Wavelength fits your bill. Super Neo Matic is also unbelievably good if you can live without phaser (does vibrato, chorus, flanger, wacky delays). Side jacks but still narrower than the Behringer you have.
Korg Pitchblack Mini is the best value small tuner on the market IMO. Cheap, solid, does everything you need and nothing you don't.
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:33 am
by fcknoise
Why not a zoom? I hear people say good shit about it all the time. I might be wrong but I think they also have a tuner, so that takes care of that as well.
Bitquest is nicer though and has top jacks, so it will fit more nicely with what you have.
If you ditch the phase95 and get a clip on, maaaaybe you can fit a Boss MD-200, which seems like a very nice pedal and format
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:13 am
by gila_crisis
Check out the Zoom MS70 Mutllistomp!!!
It has some very good effects inside, you can save presets and it has tuner as well!
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:43 am
by Errant Tiger
01010111 wrote:https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TU3S--boss-tu-3s-chromatic-tuner
I want to buy one, but I don’t really need a tuner that often.
I thought that was it. I love the idea of perching it on another pedal but I do a lot of retuning and would like a kill switch, which this doesn't have.
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:46 am
by Errant Tiger
fcknoise wrote:Why not a zoom? I hear people say good shit about it all the time. I might be wrong but I think they also have a tuner, so that takes care of that as well.
Bitquest is nicer though and has top jacks, so it will fit more nicely with what you have.
If you ditch the phase95 and get a clip on, maaaaybe you can fit a Boss MD-200, which seems like a very nice pedal and format
I had a Zoom MS70CDR for a little while and I loved the sounds, but I have zero patience for all the menu-diving. I like to twiddle my knobs on the fly and the Zoom is definitely not for that. (Also, it's too big).
I hadn't thought about a Bitquest! Thanks.
The Phase 95, as I said, is just for visual purposes to show how much/little room I have. I think the MD-200 takes up more room and money than I'd like, but I'll investigate...
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:49 am
by Errant Tiger
backwardsvoyager wrote:Bitquest is great.
I'd recommend an Alexander pedal on account of them being cheaper, and having presets/tap/ramp functions etc.
Wavelength fits your bill. Super Neo Matic is also unbelievably good if you can live without phaser (does vibrato, chorus, flanger, wacky delays). Side jacks but still narrower than the Behringer you have.
Korg Pitchblack Mini is the best value small tuner on the market IMO. Cheap, solid, does everything you need and nothing you don't.
I hadn't thought about an Alexander... Wavelength looks useful, I'll check it out! Thanks!
And yeah, I forgot about the Pitchblack Mini. Hmm.
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:50 am
by Errant Tiger
gila_crisis wrote:Check out the Zoom MS70 Mutllistomp!!!
It has some very good effects inside, you can save presets and it has tuner as well!
Nope. As I said, not looking for one. I'm not a presets guy and I like to be able to tweak on the fly. Great sounds but not functional for my needs. Thanks though.
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:51 am
by Errant Tiger
Errant Tiger wrote:01010111 wrote:https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TU3S--boss-tu-3s-chromatic-tuner
I want to buy one, but I don’t really need a tuner that often.
I thought that was it. I love the idea of perching it on another pedal but I do a lot of retuning and would like a kill switch, which this doesn't have.
Though - stupid question - do they work if you turn down the guitar volume?
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:44 am
by Dowi
Bitquest is always the answer. Once i realized i could easily do tons of different kinds of ring mod/flanging/chorus/tremolo sounds with it i got rid of all the other modulation stuff.. bonly downside is that you can't use them simultaneously

keeping an eye open on this thread beacuse a small modulation unit would be useful for me too.
It hasn't been mentioned, but he Old Blood Noise Visitor was on my radar for a while, it has three kinds of modulation and parallel rounting too, but i've never found a demo that convinced me.
Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:54 am
by Schlatte
I have a Mooer ModFactory, works well, is small, is cheap. Does all I need it to do.

Re: Building a mini-board, looking for multi-mod
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:15 pm
by Errant Tiger
Schlatte wrote:I have a Mooer ModFactory, works well, is small, is cheap. Does all I need it to do.

I had forgotten these even existed. This could very well be a solution!
Do you know the difference between the MKI and the MKII?