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How delay pedals are made
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:09 pm
by Errant Tiger
Here's a question: why do some delay pedals have subdivisions on their length/time knobs/switches? Why not just a clean sweep from like 10-2000 or whatever?
I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable answer, but I have no idea what it is.
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:23 pm
by ratrod
I think it’s just to make tapping in a rhythmic delay easier; you tap a quarter note and the echos play back at the selected rhythmic rate
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:53 am
by coldbrightsunlight
That is why.
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:39 am
by Errant Tiger
I'm confused - what about pedals without tap? Like a DE7, with the Range selector switch split up into 30-160, 120-550, 480-2600, etc?
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:35 am
by coldbrightsunlight
Oh sorry when you said subdivisions I thought you meant musical subdivisions rather than switches between the separate delay time ranges. What you are talking about is a totally different thing to what ratrod and I were talking about.
I would imagine it's to make the sweep of the knob more usable to do certain common things in each mode e.g. I guess it might be harder to tweak for the exact right 'slapback' sound on a knob that goes all the way to 2seconds max.
Each of those ranges corresponds to a certain "style" of delay. So I think it's an easy way of giving maximum control within a certain zone. Like, I want slapback so I put it on the shorter setting. I want long so I put it on the long setting.
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:36 am
by qersty
It may have to do with fidelity too. i.e you trade time for resolution
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:51 am
by chromandre
qersty wrote:It may have to do with fidelity too. i.e you trade time for resolution
yeah that's why at least BOSS pedals saw it as an improvement. The smooth delay knob times on vintage DD-3 are all at different sampling rates. you might notice it gets a touch grungier at the max delay time. (you'll definitely notice it on the PS-2!!!) whereas every single delay time available on DD-5 is CD quality, and it does not warble.
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:25 am
by Errant Tiger
Yeah, I realize now I could've been clearer. That all makes sense. I guess as someone who almost always uses the max delay time (or at least the max 25% of delay time) I never really thought about it.
Thanks, all! You're great.
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:14 am
by coldbrightsunlight
no u
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:02 pm
by retinal orbita
I don’t WANT to know how delay pedals are made. It’s magic!! A witch stirs a boiling cauldron and a delay pedal comes out after they throw a frogs liver in.....
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:42 pm
by mathias
One little cat tells the other little cat what to play to match your input signal, and the other little cat plays it on a tiny guitar.
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:52 pm
by Errant Tiger
mathias wrote:One little cat tells the other little cat what to play to match your input signal, and the other little cat plays it on a tiny guitar.
Cats. Does their cunning know no bounds?
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:00 pm
by mcatano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75WFTHpOw8Y
This is perhaps the most succinct explanation of hybrid BBD-digital circuit topography I've ever heard.
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:40 pm
by Errant Tiger
mcatano wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75WFTHpOw8Y
This is perhaps the most succinct explanation of hybrid BBD-digital circuit topography I've ever heard.
I have sampled that last line so many times. In my head.
Re: How delay pedals are made
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:39 pm
by friendship
mathias wrote:One little cat tells the other little cat what to play to match your input signal, and the other little cat plays it on a tiny guitar.
this is canon now