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Is it time for a dedicated Blooper thread, with these set to ship out tomorrow? Honestly I thought there was already a thread for this, but apparently not. :idk:

If you missed the final Blooper reel, they've added onboard storage for revisiting loops. I was quite surprised by this, since they had repeatedly shut this query down. It makes me wonder how much crazier this pedal would be with another 6-12 months of development or in a bigger desktop enclosure. (not that I'm complaining)

I've been pondering a Digitakt to pair with this---dumping Bloops into Digitakt and then cycling them back through the Blooper and then into another looper/recording device. (constantly grooming and modifying sounds with no real endpoint)

The Stability pot and the Scrambler (randomizer/pattern shaper?) are my favorite features, but I imagine I'll find more, when I start to interact with Blooper. Really curious to hear it with live pot-turning---all the warps & whirls.

...for those awaiting pre-orders or picking one up later, what are you most looking forward to? :snax:

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Blooper reminds me of some of my favorite loop pedals in the last 10 years:
Scramble seems cool, a bit like the CT5 Mode 2 maybe?
Dropper reminds me of the RV-3 / PS-3 glitch loops that can be achieved by turning the delay time knob while looping 2 seconds.
Stability is similar to the El Capistan degradation of loops, but more controllable instead of automatic.
Additive modifier recording will allow loop deconstruction and evolution, something I have really only been able to achieve with the EDP.

Really don't care about the filter. Hoping they release more modifiers for future updates. For instance, I would love to see some Insert/Replace functions from the EDP.

Hope it is fast to use and easy to control with my feet. I want to take the DL4 off my band board (even had it listed for sale) but I don't know if this will provide the same ease of use.
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I'll probably pick one up down the line, but I'm really not a fan of the dip switches or the "hold this then push that then turn that knob" philosophy. I'd rather just want a bigger pedal with more knobs and toggles on it. That being said, the amount of features and functions they've jammed into this is extremely impressive. Saved loops with layers is a big plus. I like the effects too. Sounds great! So, I'll have one eventually, but I'm fine with waiting for a bit to see how others get along with their units first.
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codetocontra wrote:Blooper reminds me of some of my favorite loop pedals in the last 10 years:
Scramble seems cool, a bit like the CT5 Mode 2 maybe?
Dropper reminds me of the RV-3 / PS-3 glitch loops that can be achieved by turning the delay time knob while looping 2 seconds.
Stability is similar to the El Capistan degradation of loops, but more controllable instead of automatic.
Additive modifier recording will allow loop deconstruction and evolution, something I have really only been able to achieve with the EDP.
When you put it like that, buying it is like saving money! :!!!:
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UglyCasanova wrote:I'll probably pick one up down the line, but I'm really not a fan of the dip switches or the "hold this then push that then turn that knob" philosophy. I'd rather just want a bigger pedal with more knobs and toggles on it. That being said, the amount of features and functions they've jammed into this is extremely impressive. Saved loops with layers is a big plus. I like the effects too. Sounds great! So, I'll have one eventually, but I'm fine with waiting for a bit to see how others get along with their units first.
Fully agree with you, also I would have liked to see this with Stereo IN/OUT!
I have a Mood, but since a while it's collecting dust on a shelf. It's cool, but I always go back to my usual "not fancy but normal" pedals most of the time.
I kind of find it more challanging and creative to craft my sounds combining simple pedals together than having a pedal that can do odd stuff by itself alone.
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They did a donation raffle kind of thing and I ended up winning one. I'm not sure if that'll ship with the Kickstarter pedals or what. I haven't spent much time with loopers so I'm looking forward to trying to figure out what this world is about.
Is there a feature where it will automatically start and stop recording new loops?
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I love everything about this other than it being in the same chase bliss enclosure. The amount of functionality it has makes me dread the learning curve and wish this was more of a desktop unit or in a bigger enclosure as I can't see this being an on-the-fly useful stompbox.
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Totally not a fan of multiple pressing/moving knob combinations for different tasks, so could hardly use this. If it was a big looper with 4 footswitches it would probably be my dream looper. Maybe using a dedicated external midi controller could be a solution, i guess we'll see when deomes start coming out. (Also it's way out of my budget, but that's another story)
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Well good deal that they added the recording recall! I was not interested mainly because of that. Not being able to stop a loop makes something like this pretty useless in my eyes lol, so good on Joel and the team to work that one out!!

I would have been down for a larger, more expanded version too. I don't have one on order but I want one now.
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Confuzzled wrote:I love everything about this other than it being in the same chase bliss enclosure. The amount of functionality it has makes me dread the learning curve and wish this was more of a desktop unit or in a bigger enclosure as I can't see this being an on-the-fly useful stompbox.
My thoughts exactly. As a table-top device, sure. But as an on-the-ground "guitar pedal" ...? I am not convinced yet.
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All the newer Chase Bliss pedals have some kind of learning curve. I'm still trying to figure out the Thermae lol. I'd love to give it a whirl to see what it's like. We all know I'll sell it though. I mean, right?
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Has the manual been released yet? I couldn't find it with a quick google search.
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Completely agree about wishing it was in a bigger enclosure. This is sort of their gimmick, I guess. Never liked the stomp switch proximity and always avoided Chase Bliss because of it. Having the CT5 and #Rip. around has helped me a bit with the "get over it" mentality. Well, Raj told me to get over it at one point. I guess if it ends up on my board I will just have to leave a lot of extra room for my big, dumb feet. Using a MIDI controller isn't for me.

FWIW, one of the Blooper reels mentioned having a remote switch for recording function, letting the pedal be mounted on a table while controlling with feet. I have watched all those videos and they are not a good demo or even a decent presentation of what the Blooper will be. More like watching a behind the scenes semi-documentary on how a movie was made before watching the actual movie. There are features discussed and shown that didn't make it into final production.

Selling the pedal via Kickstarter based solely on promises of loop manipulation was enough for me. Loopers are fascinating instruments. For years I have wanted more devices that pushed those possibilities forward. Blooper seems to offer that. The same line of thinking is why I have owned an 856 and gave the Tensor another chance. The era of glitch pedals has been more interesting than other pedal types because of the advancement and iteration those boxes have made in recent years. Sometimes they don't bond with a workflow, and that is fine, the experiment was a worthwhile experience at the very least. Even better when a device gels with my approach. Although I have decided to also keep using my 7th DL4 because a 20 year old device is still king of the pack in many ways.
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Dowi wrote:Totally not a fan of multiple pressing/moving knob combinations for different tasks, so could hardly use this. If it was a big looper with 4 footswitches it would probably be my dream looper. Maybe using a dedicated external midi controller could be a solution, i guess we'll see when deomes start coming out. (Also it's way out of my budget, but that's another story)
There are option like your dream: Looperlative LP1, the old Echoplex EDP and the Boomerang III.

I use to have the LP1, and it was amazing! But big (1x19" rack unit plus a dedicated midi footcontroller). That's why I went for a Pigtronix Infinity a while ago (I didn't consider the Boomerang, because back then it wasn't available at all, and nowaday after studying its manual I don't really like how it's implemented).

My 2 cents: the perfect loop pedal/station doesn't exist yet! Everybody is producing something, but yet nobody has done something which has all the feature most loopers are crawing to have!
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gila_crisis wrote:
My 2 cents: the perfect loop pedal/station doesn't exist yet! Everybody is producing something, but yet nobody has done something which has all the feature most loopers are crawing to have!
Indeed! Hardware loopers are limited by their physical manifestation and software developers have, for some reason, limited their software based on self-imposed criteria. The only truly modular looper out there is Circular Labs Mobius but it hasn't been updated in a decade or longer and the graphics have problems on Windows 10.

The next time I have some time, I aim to learn Max and create the looper that fits my creative workflow but the problem is, it feels like I will never have that time!

The features on Blooper look great but it is only mono. I use 32 tracks of Circular Labs Mobius! 32 x $499 = a lot of lawnmower money
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