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15" Speaker Suggestions: New Criteria Update

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:35 pm
by Jero
...for bass specifically, and preferably </= $325 total, but not absolutely set. Just seems like if I'm going much over that I may be better off buying a different/newer cab.

Going in a vented Peavey 2x15. Using with a Sunn 200s (roughly 60 watts), but will be getting something bigger at some point.

Just acquired one of the Peavey 2x15 cabs...standard/shallow version, with triangular ports, and Eminence squarebacks circa '81.

Bottom speaker is completely blown. Looking for something cheap'ish (<$250 total) to replace both speakers with. I know some of your folks have dealt with these cabs before :poke: Planning on using it with bass, but if it sounds good with guitar as well that would be great.

I currently have an old Fender Bassman 50, 2x15 cab loaded with Jensen Neo's, that sounds bad with bass (farts out quick), though nice with guitar. Gonna try those Neos out in the Peavey this weekend, but in the mean time want to weigh the options.

This thread popped up: http://www.ilovefuzz.com/viewtopic.php? ... eavey+2x15
which put the Celestion tf1520/1525's on my radar (so cheap also)...I was already looking at maybe Eminence Deltas or Fane Sovereigns. They seem to be a common rec.

Oh and the most power this will see for now is the Sunn 200s, so I don't need a ton of wattage. It would be nice to not have to upgrade later however, if I get a bigger head.

TL:DR - What cheap speakers should I get for a vented 2x15 Peavey?

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:36 pm
by JonnyAngle
Are the speakers blown or does the surround just need to be glued down?

I’ve fixed 4 or 5 peavey cabs that were “blown” and all I had to do was glue the surrounds back in place.

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:53 pm
by K2000
To add to what Johnny Angle said... Do the speakers make any sound at all? Sometimes if the speakers are old, the glue can get brittle and the cone and dome will separate, which sounds like a buzz or flapping. You can't always eyeball this, you might need to pull the speaker and view it up close, while it's laying face up. Take something like a exacto knife or tiny implement and gently test the edges to see if they pull up at all. You can glue the speakers yourself with (if I recall correctly) rubber cement or any glue that remains flexible. I got this info on Talkbass and repaired two Ampeg speakers this way. Since you're pulling the speakers anyway (to replace them) you might as well look.

If the speakers don't make any sound at all, then the voice coil melted, etc, probably not repairable.

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:57 pm
by DannDubbleEwe
I was gifted a Heritage VTX and thought the same thing and it was totally a loose surround where the glue had separated.

As far as a replacement maybe an Eminence Beta 15a would work. They’re like $90 each and apparently pack a wallop although I’ve never used one.

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:16 pm
by Jero
Thanks for the suggestions...Gonna say not repairable. Speaker/surround/etc looks good, but is totally dead. No sound, no reaction to voltage. Top one works though. I could just replace the dead one, but I'd rather update both and have them match.

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:53 pm
by JonnyAngle
Jero wrote:Thanks for the suggestions...Gonna say not repairable. Speaker/surround/etc looks good, but is totally dead. No sound, no reaction to voltage. Top one works though. I could just replace the dead one, but I'd rather update both and have them match.
Sounds like a frozen voice coil or something.

Well now the scheming shall begin

So you want to play guitar and bass with a 215 with a relatively low powered amp?
Eminence legends are what I would choose

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:40 am
by Jero
JonnyAngle wrote:
Jero wrote:Thanks for the suggestions...Gonna say not repairable. Speaker/surround/etc looks good, but is totally dead. No sound, no reaction to voltage. Top one works though. I could just replace the dead one, but I'd rather update both and have them match.
Sounds like a frozen voice coil or something.

Well now the scheming shall begin

So you want to play guitar and bass with a 215 with a relatively low powered amp?
Eminence legends are what I would choose
Bass really (guitar is simply a plus). I don't have a cab I can use with bass, so that is my focus and hopefully can accomplish with the Peavey. I have a 4x12 I can use for guitar, or the bassman if I don't end up using those speakers in the Peavey.

There's an Ampeg PF115lf locally I can snag for what seems like a steal ($130) that has my eye as well. Have considered getting it and setting the Peavey off to the side for now.

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:22 am
by K2000
Funny how a working speaker cabinet is often cheaper than buying replacement speakers.

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:08 am
by Jero
K2000 wrote:Funny how a working speaker cabinet is often cheaper than buying replacement speakers.
Some times this is great...other's not so much. Right now is a bit of the latter :lol: It's all good though. I'm looking forward to trying different stuff out. Been a while.

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:38 am
by Blackened Soul
Pa speakers that can be or are opimized for sub use work better than you might think, I've always liked pa speakers better than detonated bass guitar speakers :idk:

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:40 pm
by Chankgeez
Ted Weber just listed a bunch of 15" speakers in their Reverb shop:

https://reverb.com/shop/ted-webers-boutique

:idk: :snax:

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:29 pm
by Jero
Where can I get the dampening rings that go around the frame of speakers? My Jensens don’t have them on the backside and it’s a front loaded cab...
Blackened Soul wrote:Pa speakers that can be or are opimized for sub use work better than you might think, I've always liked pa speakers better than detonated bass guitar speakers :idk:
So it seems like the Celestion Truvox or the Eminence Legends would be a good choice after all. Both are in my price range too. The truvox 1520 (45-4000hz) are only $100 shipped for a pair. That seems crazy cheap.

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:38 pm
by JonnyAngle
Jero wrote:Where can I get the dampening rings that go around the frame of speakers? My Jensens don’t have them on the backside and it’s a front loaded cab...
Blackened Soul wrote:Pa speakers that can be or are opimized for sub use work better than you might think, I've always liked pa speakers better than detonated bass guitar speakers :idk:
So it seems like the Celestion Truvox or the Eminence Legends would be a good choice after all. Both are in my price range too. The truvox 1520 (45-4000hz) are only $100 shipped for a pair. That seems crazy cheap.
https://reverb.com/item/27740969-gasket ... er-15-inch

you can always buy something. But I'd just go to Home Depot and buy some 1/2" wide foam tape and use that

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:24 pm
by Jero
JonnyAngle wrote:https://reverb.com/item/27740969-gaskets-jensen-for-speaker-cabinets-package-of-4-diameter-15-inch

you can always buy something. But I'd just go to Home Depot and buy some 1/2" wide foam tape and use that
My man! I couldn't think of the word 'gasket' :facepalm: :lol: Shit was driving me crazy.
I'll definitely go the foam tape route, as I already have some. Figured that'd work but wasn't positive.

Re: 15" Speaker Suggestions

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:22 pm
by Blackened Soul
Jero wrote:Where can I get the dampening rings that go around the frame of speakers? My Jensens don’t have them on the backside and it’s a front loaded cab...
Blackened Soul wrote:Pa speakers that can be or are opimized for sub use work better than you might think, I've always liked pa speakers better than detonated bass guitar speakers :idk:
So it seems like the Celestion Truvox or the Eminence Legends would be a good choice after all. Both are in my price range too. The truvox 1520 (45-4000hz) are only $100 shipped for a pair. That seems crazy cheap.
That sounds right, there is also the wattage/headroom thing paired with how big an amp you are using, personally I don't ever go under 400 watts on a speaker :idk: oh stay away from those Celestion green something neodymium things.. Maybe it was because I had a prototype one but it was the most beefless of speakers :idk: