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"If you are looking at this, you already know what it is"
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:23 pm
by cosmicevan
Why do so many people list things for sale that are not obvious what they are selling and say "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is..."
I was recently watching some youtube nonsense about breaking the record for the largest pedalboard and they had a bunch of well known pedal makers helping out and even they were googling what popular pedals from EQD actually did since it wasn't obvious from the name of the pedal and even the parameter names...and many of the builders had to answer what their pedals did to others setting them up.
As someone into the weird and unusual I browse through those kinds of categories on for sale sites. I almost always see the "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is..." the description of a used effect that is priced really high and one that I've never heard of. Usually googling doesn't get you too far either...assuming I'm in the mood to research what this high priced thing is, most of the time I just move on.
Is it sheer laziness? Is it a way to eliminate tire kickers (I know I once was selling a Neumann TLM-103 priced really competitively for a single mic in a case that holds a pair and I'd get questions asking if it was a single mic or a pair - to which I knew the person had no idea what they were looking at and clearly were not a buyer)? Is it that sellers don't want to deal with questions? While a talking up sales pitch can be even more annoying, it seems like people really limit options for closing a sale by not offering details on what's for sale.
For those who write this...why do you do it?
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:50 pm
by oldangelmidnight
I just assume it's people who feel like they need to say something exciting and insider-ey to boost the sale but can't bother to come up with something interesting. That or they just bought the thing based on internet hype but they don't really know what it does.
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:16 pm
by AZX309
if i see that phrase, i assume flipper.
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:56 pm
by UglyCasanova
AZX309 wrote:if i see that phrase, i assume flipper.
I usually assume that based on price
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:57 pm
by $harkToootth
Usually it’s what oldangelmidnight said. Someone is basically using the non-sequiter for some sort of price unaccountability.
Some scrote recently did this for a Yamaha VSS30 on my local craigslist. Like, get over yourself you chode. This isn’t the lost arc or some shit.
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:50 pm
by Snufkino
I always visualise someone peaking over their shades when I read that.
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:01 pm
by adamajah
$harkToootth wrote:Some scrote recently did this for a Yamaha VSS30 on my local craigslist. Like, get over yourself you chode. This isn’t the lost arc or some shit.
What a grundle cake.
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:11 pm
by Dandolin
santorumbags, smh
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:13 pm
by $harkToootth
adamajah wrote:$harkToootth wrote:Some scrote recently did this for a Yamaha VSS30 on my local craigslist. Like, get over yourself you chode. This isn’t the lost arc or some shit.
What a grundle cake.
Dandolin wrote:santorumbags, smh
You guys are my friends... we speak the same language... I'm so happy. This thread turned out to be a positive thing for me.
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Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:34 pm
by repoman
There are loads of musical instruments and associated products that are extremely niche and will only be purchased by people actively searching for those products.
Basically no one is going to stumble upon a listing for something like a Seppuku pedal, so everyone looking at it...will know exactly what it is. Saves time on formulating some pointless salesman pitch.
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:56 pm
by Chankgeez
The opposite approach:
https://reverb.com/item/27538940-super- ... _sold=true
Complete with shoutout to UC?
Very very rare, near impossible to find.
Last two posted on reverb sold for $475 and $510 respectively. Both sold within a day of being posted.
The digital water – in the opinions of many, is the crown jewel of Seppuku pedals and one of the coolest pedals ever made. It has the nicest cascading watery delay tones of any delay that I have ever found, and I have tried over 100 delays - this one is truly unique, and very musical super useable.
It can do several particular watery delay tones that no other pedal on earth can achieve - cascading waterfall, the watery sound of a running stream or Brook, bubbles, uneven wave tides, liquify gitches, reverse water delay, watery pitch modulated delay, wet lo-if echo, and other unique aquatic sound effects that take you far into into the ocean’s depths...
On top of all of that, there is even more in the modulation department. It does the super appealing “random modulation” that is so desirable among delay pedal connoisseurs and is very pleasing to the ears - the random modulation has no regular LFO pattern but an unpredictable, natural sounding randomness to it. Completely unique. Raw and organic.
It can also do normal sinewave/normal sounding modulation like every single other boring modulated delay for when you want that. It does sound good enough in its normal settings to replace your analog delay if you so desire. I always have like five delays on my board personally, but this one is always on the random watery modulation mode. The random modulation is totally able to be tamed. VERY musical. Can be subtle or extreme. Sounds so cool and people are really pleased to hear it’s tone - a sound they’ve never heard before.
The pedal can also be set to go all out crazy, which somehow manages to stay musical and useful with actual music, not just a noisemaker.
The random modulation is just ONE of the many sounds this pedal can do besides the watery sounds, but even this random modulation feature is so rare in delay pedals that the only pedal that I know of that can do random modulation is the Pladask Täken. Taken sells for around $400-$425 used because it’s sound is so unique, yet this pedal can do so much more than the Täken, and the random modulation is much much different on this pedal.
Honestly, it isn’t even the coolest setting on the Seppuku.
There were quite a few iterations of this pedal from Seppuku, some had one knob, some had one knob and an LED, some had two knobs and an LED, and some had two knobs and a switch. The one with the two knobs and a switch is the most sophisticated, final iteration of the pedal and few were built.
This version is the only one that allows you to switch the watery delay / random modulation / glitch effects on or off. In the off position, it does a whole array of tones from reverse delay, to delay with normal modulation, to digital, analog, ping pong, pan, tape, and hold (looper). The watery delay / random modulation / glitch effect can be switched on to work with ANY of those modes (except the looper). So you can have reverse watery random modulation delay!
Sounds great with all of of the modes, but is particularly interesting with the reverse delay and tape delays as well as the mod delay.
The knobs allow you to fine-tune the modulation and get just the sound do you want. They give a variety of interesting tones across a sweep of knob turning mystery, including those unique aquatic sound effects that can’t be achieved with any other pedal, as well as things that happen like uneven delays, gitches, white noise and bit reduction.
Seppuku stopped making this pedal years ago, and the owner has publicly stated that he won’t make any pedals at all anymore. Even the Seppuku website is now shut down for good, only to become a legend, a remnant of the past.
Easily one of the coolest delay pedals ever – right up there with the the Montreal Assembly 856 For Zellersasn (technically a looper, but has ridiculous delay settings, and another favorite of delay connoisseurs).
Very small numbering these Digital Waters in existence. Very rarely come up for
sale, so I'm sure it will sell quickly.
This also can be used as a straight up chorus, or even a looper pedal with a small footprint - very versatile. The mod can obviously be switched off to just use normal delay sounds and it actually sounds great as a normal delay (much to my surprise). Many call it a Line 6 DL4 in a small enclosure. That’s a pretty legendary pedal to be compared to. Yet, obviously the DL4 doesn’t have the watery modulation and random modulation.
The reverse delay has endless interesting musical applications. If you don’t have a reverse delay - you need one. They are so inspiring and creativity inducing.
The YouTube video by ‘ugly cassanova’ called “similar
but different #1: Data Error & Seppuku Digital Water” is
unfortunately the best one on the internet, and shows just a tiny tiny bit of what this pedal can do, and shows you some of the watery delay tones and some random modulation delay tones that you can get out of it, but it’s really only the tip of the iceberg.
I also have an Audio Disruption Devices Data Error pedal that I got years ago while he was still making them and I am willing to sell one if you are looking for one of those instead.
I have been a collector of delays ranging from the 80's to now, and have owned somewhere around 120 different delays, ranging
all the way up to the most expensive, but specifically focusing on the most unique experimental pedals that make sounds no other pedal can make. This, I have to say, is completely unique in what it can do, and especially in how useful and musical is is. 100% unlike any other pedal out there.
I tried everything to get these sounds out of other delays that had the most promise in coaxing these tones from. I wanted a watery delay AND a random modulation delay pedal, but seriously struggled for years not finding anything. Only the seppuku could do it.
After a ton of time and effort, I realized that my favorite delay tones can’t be duplicated by anything else out there, even with the use of delay effects loops and combinations of pedals etc. I tried EVERYTHING.
Stereo in and outs, great for Wet/Dry or W/D/W setups.
Preset modes:
reverse delay
dark analog
bright digital
pitch modulation
stereo panning
ping pongs
tape
looper
Snufkino wrote:I always visualise someone peaking over their shades when I read that.
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:02 pm
by UglyCasanova
That's the longest justification rant I've ever read.
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:10 pm
by $harkToootth
Chank, I’ve been surfing the web since I was 9... and that is honestly the most offensive thing I have ever seen.
EDIT: Wait a minute... it’s just a masterpiece of meta-humor right?
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:13 pm
by Chankgeez
Watch out soon for my new YouTube channel: "Chank's Most Offensive Web Content"
I just convey what I find.
If nobody posts it in the first place, I'd have nothing to report/repost.
Re: "If you are looking at this, you already know what it is
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:27 pm
by coupleonapkins
"If you see me at the airport, don't say hello."
