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Chorus/Detune/Double Tracking

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:35 pm
by BoatRich
What’s out there that’s cool? If at all possible I want the hair metal/thrash thing, I’m not really concerned with LoFi tones or anything. I’ve considered a Boss CE-2w, CH-1, etc..., the Walrus Julia, the MXR Micro and full-size, and the little micro CS-9. What am I missing? Tiny is better because there’s a huge chance this doesn’t get used much.

Re: Chorus/Detune/Double Tracking

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:11 am
by nogodsnobedtimes
For that 80s goodness you want the Boss CE-2 or the Ibanez CS9

I'm kinda stoked on the OBNE Reflector, but it's got some delay/verb built in that might be unwanted.

Re: Chorus/Detune/Double Tracking

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:56 am
by goroth
BoatRich wrote:I want the hair metal/thrash thing
I approve of this sentiment.

Re: Chorus/Detune/Double Tracking

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:56 am
by goroth
Priest have always used the MXR Microchorus. To my ears *that* is the sound.

Re: Chorus/Detune/Double Tracking

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:02 am
by ck3
The DigiTech Luxe may be a viable option. It's standard size, but new units can often be found for the price of a cheaper mini pedal. The Luxe does 90's glitz, glam, and gaze equally well. For 80's, chorus will be your friend, and The Valeton CH-10 is a decent (though not 100% accurate) mini knockoff of the Boss CE-2.

Re: Chorus/Detune/Double Tracking

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:09 am
by shikawkee
Mooer Pitch Box? I have one and like you it gets pulled out maybe twice a year. Small and relatively cheap.

Re: Chorus/Detune/Double Tracking

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:58 pm
by BoatRich
goroth wrote:Priest have always used the MXR Microchorus. To my ears *that* is the sound.
This is the type of information I need. Also yeah that’s super high on my list because it’s cheap. I may try the little micro Ibanez thing because it’s also cheap, but I love MXR stuff.

Re: Chorus/Detune/Double Tracking

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:43 am
by qersty
The boss super chorus is awesome because people are basically giving them away, plus they have a tone knob which i like. The tone knob on my arion chorus is super useful, idk if its at all similar to the boss. The hardwire chorus looks nice, it has has a tri-chorus mode which is what i think of as 80s metal chorus. The chorus on yamaha spx units is pretty nice too. If you wanna be really legit hair-metal you could get an A/DA preamp, they had a built in chorus and are the amps for 80s metal

Re: Chorus/Detune/Double Tracking

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:40 am
by Gone Fission
Boss CH-1 was my second pedal. Think it was still the 80s. Very frosty sounds possible.

Don't neglect the possibilities of a flanger with the resonance/feedback cranked down. I wouldn't have put it past a lot of metal/thrash guys in the 80s--willing to buy a flanger but not a chorus but not needing the jet full time. Memory Man was the Andy Summers/The Police chorus sound early on. Nice thing is flanger chorus usually sounds a lot less chorus-y because the delay time range is a bit different.

Detune is great. I dig the single voice of my Boss PS-5. Digitech Luxe is one voice. iStomp detune is two voices on its detune algo, so you can do the + and - stereo spread trick ala Van Hagar. The pitch algo in the Yamaha Magic Stomp can do the "Pitch C" stuff that 80s LA rack heads love, but it's pretty slow--a bit of delay is built into the algorithm to help deglitch the shift. (Very un-ILF, I know.)

Magic Stomp also has the Yamaha "Symphonic" algorithm, which is a multi-voice chorus-y thing that has always seemed a little flange-y to me.

Are we talking single or low voice chorus/detune-y stuff or are we talking record-advance rack stuff with multi voices? For the later, Rocktron Intellifex is pretty cheap for 8 voice Holdsworth-ish chorus (as is the Magic Stomp). Modern easy-button pedal version would be a Digitech Nautila.

Re: Chorus/Detune/Double Tracking

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:00 am
by qersty
Gone Fission wrote:Boss CH-1 was my second pedal. Think it was still the 80s. Very frosty sounds possible.

Don't neglect the possibilities of a flanger with the resonance/feedback cranked down. I wouldn't have put it past a lot of metal/thrash guys in the 80s--willing to buy a flanger but not a chorus but not needing the jet full time. Memory Man was the Andy Summers/The Police chorus sound early on. Nice thing is flanger chorus usually sounds a lot less chorus-y because the delay time range is a bit different.

Detune is great. I dig the single voice of my Boss PS-5. Digitech Luxe is one voice. iStomp detune is two voices on its detune algo, so you can do the + and - stereo spread trick ala Van Hagar. The pitch algo in the Yamaha Magic Stomp can do the "Pitch C" stuff that 80s LA rack heads love, but it's pretty slow--a bit of delay is built into the algorithm to help deglitch the shift. (Very un-ILF, I know.)

Magic Stomp also has the Yamaha "Symphonic" algorithm, which is a multi-voice chorus-y thing that has always seemed a little flange-y to me.

Are we talking single or low voice chorus/detune-y stuff or are we talking record-advance rack stuff with multi voices? For the later, Rocktron Intellifex is pretty cheap for 8 voice Holdsworth-ish chorus (as is the Magic Stomp). Modern easy-button pedal version would be a Digitech Nautila.
Oh yeah the flange thing is great, when I had a flanger thats how I used it.