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What power supply would you get?

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:20 pm
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
Unfortunately TrueTone 1-SPOTs are super rare here, and the only way I can get the supply + cables is via two sites far away from each other. It will come to about 1,000 NOK. At that price I can get these locally:

Decibel 11 Hot Stone SMD
Randall Multi Voltage Pedal PSU
T-Rex FuelTank Classic
T-Rex FuelTank Chameleon
MXR M237 DC Brick
T-Rex FuelTank Jr.
Mooer Macro Power S8
Mooer Micro Power
Riot Black Box


A somewhat wimpy selection, but at least it's something.

Any tips on what would be prudent here? I have the following pedals (which require power):
-DOD FX 91 Bass Overdrive (don't actually use it tbf)
-DigiTech Death Metal Distortion
-DigiTech Digiverb
-MXR Distortion+
-DanElectro Fab Tone
-BOSS DD-3

I'm obtaining shortly:
-BOSS FS-5L
-BOSS PS (whichever I can find)
-BOSS TU 2 or 3
-BOSS RV-6

And not so shortly (when I get rich):
-Electro Harmonix MEL-9
-MXR Carbon Copy Bright or Deluxe


I'm not planning on getting any more, but hey, you know how it is. So extra room would be nice.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:57 pm
by misterstomach
Get something with actual isolated outputs, which the D.C. brick does not have. I don't think the fuel tank stuff does either but I'm not sure. I don't know much about the others. I have a bbe supa charger. It was reasonably priced and I've been happy with it for years. I like that it can do North American or euro power cause I wish that was a concern in my life, but it's not.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:43 am
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
The FuelTank Chameloen has "5 Galvanically isolated blocks with 300 mA each". It looks like this:

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So 1500mA in total. Would that be fine for my projected 12 pedals? (The 12 above minus the DOD which I don't actually use, plus a passive volume pedal.)

Here's a list with the current draws I was able to find:

-BOSS TU-2 55mA Max (TU-3 30mA, 85mA with "high brightness")
-Electro-Harmonix Mel9 ~100mA
-DigiTech Death Metal ~21mA
-DigiTech Digiverb ~75mA, supposedly max 300mA(??)
-MXR Carbon Copy Bright 26mA
-MXR Distortion+ 2.5mA
-BOSS RV-6 65mA
-BOSS FV-500H (passive)
-Danelectro Fab Tone 10mA
-BOSS DD-3 35mA
-BOSS PS-3 70mA
-BOSS FS-5L (no clue what to do about this)

That should be about 450-500mA in total. No clue about how to chain them though. Maybe TIAS? And then isolate troublesome stuff. I'm a complete noob with this stuff.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:22 pm
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
The Carl Martin Power Pro seems a perhaps even better fit?

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"8 individual isolated and regulated 9v (100mA) – 12v (90mA) outputs, with extended power at output 7-8 9v (300mA) 12v (200mA)".

Maybe an even better fit? "Only" 1200mA, but less daisy chaining. As far as I can tell from power nerds, the most important thing of all is isolation.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:31 pm
by misterstomach
I would want more than 5 outputs with what you have. And you don't need them to all be 300mA. As much as it's nice to have an out for each pedal, that's not a reality for most of us. I usually figure that dirt pedals are usually fine with being daisy chained. Same with utility pedals like tuners and loop switchers and stuff. I like to try to give digital pedals their own power, but in a pinch you can usually find something they'll get along with. Usually a true bypass pedal that you're not going to use at the same time is a good place to start. With as many digital pedals as you have, I'd go with something like the thing posted above with 8 outs or more and a couple that can do high output.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:35 pm
by misterstomach
I also think everyone should use a true bypass tuner. And there's just so much better options than boss tuners these days. Boss makes a lot of good stuff, but fuck those tuners. They're not even very accurate.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:18 am
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
I don't really see any other viable option here at that price point. I'll have to almost double the cash to get two more outputs. If you think 8 outputs will be sufficient for 11 pedals (well, maybe 10, IDK what to do about the FS-5L), that's probably what I'll go for. (Also, the Mel9 might not be a viable option for my sound, so it might be replaced with another reverb pedal, which will probably be a simpler pedal that draws less.)

P.S.
Suggestions for cheap true bypass chromatic tuners welcome.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:47 am
by D.o.S.
Isn't the Pitchblack true bypass? It's pretty sweet.

To be honest I'd probably just daisy chain most of em, 5 outputs should be plenty.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:56 am
by Pladask
I use the blue Scuru power supply. I think it's from caline. It's dirt cheap and has 8 isolated outputs. Never had any issues with it, but don't have a high-end PSU like the Strymon stuff to compare it with.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:47 pm
by misterstomach
D.o.S. wrote:Isn't the Pitchblack true bypass? It's pretty sweet.

To be honest I'd probably just daisy chain most of em, 5 outputs should be plenty.
Pitchblack is great and pretty cheap too.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:23 pm
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
Got the Pitchblack today. It's great. Got it even cheaper than what TU-3s go for here, and it's very nice. 200mA DC out too.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:08 am
by coldbrightsunlight
D.o.S. wrote:Isn't the Pitchblack true bypass? It's pretty sweet.

To be honest I'd probably just daisy chain most of em, 5 outputs should be plenty.
Yeah I have a PSU with 8 outputs and I use 3 or 4 of them typically to hook up about 10 pedals. With 5 outputs and your pedals with some daisy chaining you would be absolutely fine.

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:36 am
by rustywire
misterstomach wrote:I would want more than 5 outputs with what you have. And you don't need them to all be 300mA. As much as it's nice to have an out for each pedal, that's not a reality for most of us. I usually figure that dirt pedals are usually fine with being daisy chained. Same with utility pedals like tuners and loop switchers and stuff. I like to try to give digital pedals their own power, but in a pinch you can usually find something they'll get along with. Usually a true bypass pedal that you're not going to use at the same time is a good place to start. With as many digital pedals as you have, I'd go with something like the thing posted above with 8 outs or more and a couple that can do high output.
This is a practical approach until it isn't; however it should work well as solution for OP. The added utility of a Boss tuner being you can daisy chain other pedals up to an additional 200mA. Great for the boost, eq, od & distortion, but higher draw digital delay/reverb seem to breathe a bit better in their own isolated output, take advantage of their lower noise floor. YMMV

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:34 am
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
Hey, rustywire. Not sure if you read the rest of the thread. I got a different tuner (which also has 200mA out though). I'm leaning towards the 8 output supply. My revised list of pedals that need power is:

-BOSS DD-3 35mA
-BOSS PS-3 70mA
-BOSS RV-5 50mA
-BOSS RV-6 65mA
-Danelectro Fab Tone 10mA
-DigiTech Digiverb ~75mA, supposedly max 300mA(??)
-Korg Pitchblack 45mA (outputs 200mA)
-MXR Carbon Copy Bright 26mA
-MXR Distortion+ 2.5mA

Re: What power supply would you get?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:59 pm
by Jero
With that low of draw/smaller amount of pedals, you can easily run every supply you've listed. Others have mentioned, you don't need one output per pedal.
I run 15-19 pedals off a cheap mosky power station, with multiple pedals running off each output. Something with higher mA, I will give it's own, but I think I have as many as 5 pedals being powered off one output. There is a little bit of noise with this supply though (nothing crazy, but some), and I doubt all the outputs are truly isolated. Been a while since I bought it; I don't recall if I ever tried to check.