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Order flipper

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:49 pm
by Ben79
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I don't get the little grey wires on the fx switches.....why are they there?

Re: Order flipper

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:53 pm
by crochambeau
Upper switches look like bypass (I nest the order switcher AFTER bypass when I employ it).

Re: Order flipper

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:43 pm
by Ben79
But why the little greys running horizontal on the bypass switches? They seem redundant to me and I want to use a bi-colour LED.

Do you have a layout image Curt for what you use?

Re: Order flipper

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:06 pm
by crochambeau
Oh shit, I hadn't noticed those.

I agree, they appear to serve no function. Here's a pic of some build notes that employ the order switcher:

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"RED" & "BLUE" refer to the LED color, the LED being a two leg bi-color (note the feed from 50% Vcc, actual point is different because the blue is brighter than the red when fed the same, but anyway...

Gain 2 pre-out is treated as input and output is marked.

Re: Order flipper

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:12 pm
by BetterOffShred
This what I've used but pedals instead of send and return. And then standard 3pdt switching for each effect.

Re: Order flipper

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 10:45 am
by Ben79
Thanks guys.

Looks like I'm better off with two LEDs than a bicolour. Damn, I already drilled a hole dead centre.

Re: Order flipper

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 12:42 pm
by crochambeau
You can buy three legged bi-color and electrically treat it in the manner above.

Re: Order flipper

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:35 pm
by Ben79
I'm using a 3pdt toggle for my order flipper though. I think I've worked out a way to do it using the 3pdt fx switches.

EDIT: No I haven't....I need 3 states - one for A, one for B and one for A+B....so a tri-colour LED, which I have but I don't think there's a way to do it with this unless 2 colours in the LED mix to produce a 3rd?

Re: Order flipper

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:40 pm
by BetterOffShred
2xMillenium bypass.. :lol:

I'd like to see it. I did a lot of research when I was looking to do my first percolator and they were all 3pdt with no illumination or 4pdt with..

Re: Order flipper

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 4:33 pm
by Jero
With something like a toggle, it's either one way or the other...easily visually distinguishable which mod/order you're using.
With a foot switch, you can't tell which mode/order it's in visually, and a another led or multi-mode led would benefit.
Might not have been what you planned for to begin with, but as long as you wire each effect so that the toggle "points" to the appropriate one...

Re: Order flipper

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 9:46 am
by eatyourguitar
The horizontal lines are a bit strange but the only thing wrong with it is that it wastes wire. If you already wired it up then there is no good reason to change it. I think it was copied and changed from another image floating around by someone who removed something but forgot to remove the jumper.

Re: Order flipper

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:56 pm
by Ben79
Yeah it's all wired up now.
Thanks EYG.