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Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:46 am
by myrrh
I want to achieve similar guitarsounds live to when I reamp stuff recording or that of a pushed preamp/straight to desk sound.
Ideally a way of doing it straight to DI in stereo with a normal tube amp.
What i want is something trashy and "in your face" in addition to the amp sounds.

So far I´ve thought of a Quilter head, Colourbox and Broadcast.

Any other ideas on how to do this without sounding horrible?

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:57 am
by ognoy
Adding a studio preamp before the amp? Guitar > pedalboard > preamp > amp.

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:28 pm
by myrrh
I want it in addition to the amp. So it would be : guitar>pedalboard>aby>one signal to amp/one signal to preamp>DI
Any tips on preamps that are bit dirty and also sound good straight into a DI?

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:38 pm
by ognoy
Ah. I get it.
What kind of preamps have you used before? Warm Audio and Golden Age Project has decent prices preamps based on API and Neve.

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:58 pm
by Muff_Diver
Sounds like the colourbox is exactly what you want. Though itll be tough to find someone on here who can back a jhs product. Sansamp also meets all the wishes. I think a rusty box might too?

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:43 pm
by DRodriguez
API also has a pre amp pedal that sounds killer. It also is huge and expensive.

TranZformer GT. Has instrument and line out.

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:54 pm
by myrrh
Yes the Colourbox seems really nice, but dont really want to buy JHS.
Will look at that API, thanks!

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:12 pm
by myrrh
This plus Broadcast could work maybe? http://www.tonebone.com/jdxdirectdrive.php
Anyone have any experience with it? Usually very sceptical about fake amps, but maybe it can work as a more fucked up sound source in addition to a amp.

The API was a bit expensive for me...

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:06 pm
by gnomethrone
Have someone build you a clone of that JHS :doom:

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:34 am
by crochambeau
It really boils down to what features you are after. I've been driving the front end of a power amp with a Tetanus Booster and it's been sounding good to me (albeit without EQ, etc.) I may also be biased a bit.

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:29 am
by rfurtkamp
Get a splittable attenuator (one with a line out and speaker), like one of the Webers that you can have built to have a direct out.

Have it attenuate as much or as nothing as you want, mix at desk. Profit!

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:30 pm
by myrrh
rfurtkamp wrote:Get a splittable attenuator (one with a line out and speaker), like one of the Webers that you can have built to have a direct out.

Have it attenuate as much or as nothing as you want, mix at desk. Profit!
How does that work on for example an inhouse Twin Reverb? Not sure I quite understand.

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:33 pm
by tabcantab
Mid-Fi Demo Tape Fuzz?

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:40 pm
by rfurtkamp
myrrh wrote:
rfurtkamp wrote:Get a splittable attenuator (one with a line out and speaker), like one of the Webers that you can have built to have a direct out.

Have it attenuate as much or as nothing as you want, mix at desk. Profit!
How does that work on for example an inhouse Twin Reverb? Not sure I quite understand.
Take the signal out from the Twin (will be a 1/4" out), get a speaker cable. Run speaker cable to attenuator. Plug speaker cable into attenuator, select appropriate ohmage. Run cable from DI to board.

Re: Tips on amp in stereo with a DI signal?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:11 pm
by myrrh
rfurtkamp wrote:
myrrh wrote:
rfurtkamp wrote:Get a splittable attenuator (one with a line out and speaker), like one of the Webers that you can have built to have a direct out.

Have it attenuate as much or as nothing as you want, mix at desk. Profit!
How does that work on for example an inhouse Twin Reverb? Not sure I quite understand.
Take the signal out from the Twin (will be a 1/4" out), get a speaker cable. Run speaker cable to attenuator. Plug speaker cable into attenuator, select appropriate ohmage. Run cable from DI to board.
Good idea! But then it would be harder to finetune that signal from the stage? Im looking for something that can be tweaked a bit eq and gain wise separately from what goes into the amp.