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OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:07 am
by tremolo3
And that doesn't cost 3K.
I want to simplify my setup to (if possible) 1 hardware unit with the following features:
- poly
digital
multitimbral (4 parts is fine)
sequencer (8 steps at least])
sampler
storage for presets
some sort of drums
Any suggestion?
Thank you!
ps. I don't like ipads.
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:55 am
by MrNovember
I have no experience with it, but for awhile I was looking at getting a Studiologic Sledge 2.0, which I think checks a bunch off your list?
Not really sure about drums or the sequencer capabilities though.
Honestly, if you're looking to do everything in one piece of gear, I think you need to go with software
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:06 am
by kralc
It's a boring answer, and it's nowhere near as cute as the op-1, but a laptop would cover all that and more.
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:02 am
by Ev_O)))
I don't know if it really is possible in one unit with actual keys... closest I can kind of think of would be to grab a used Nord Lead and a Digitakt. A DT isn't going to take up too much more space, has an awesome internal sequencer that can be output via Midi, and is a sampler that is awesome for drums. Nord Leads do the digital multitimbral thing beautifully.
Can't think of one unit in particular that does everything requested. Maybe you should look into some workstation style keyboards or something but I'm super unfamiliar with that whole world.
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:18 am
by Aquietcabin1978
Maybe a used Korg Triton w/ the sampler board. Not sure if they ever made a 49 key version. The MOSS expansion board is also pretty rad from what I remember. I would still rock a Triton extreme if one popped up cheap enough.
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:28 am
by DRodriguez
Find yourself a nord modular. Editing is still way easier via a computer though.
Also a motif will do most of that, it's fairly popular in the church, gospel, and R&B worlds.
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:12 pm
by Ghost Hip
Digitone gets close with a midi keyboard but no sampler and its all FM based. Still pretty versatile. Andrew Huangs demo/review was pretty rad.
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:04 pm
by tremolo3
vidret wrote:op-1 with a midi keyboard?
if you find what you're looking for, let me know.
That was my first answer to myself
At that point I'd do better with just going PC or iPad I believe
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll take a look at each of them.
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:06 am
by ts50b
I believe the Blofeld keyboard version checks off everything on your list except drums. It can do drum synthesis or playback drum samples on one of the multitimbral channels while you play others if you sequence it externally though
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:45 am
by Bartimaeus
There are some good options in here, but it really seems like you want an OP-1 plus a 49-key MIDI keyboard. The OP-1 is tiny, so you could velcro or tape it to the MIDI keyboard and treat it as a single unit!
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:26 am
by tremolo3
ts50b wrote:I believe the Blofeld keyboard version checks off everything on your list except drums. It can do drum synthesis or playback drum samples on one of the multitimbral channels while you play others if you sequence it externally though
That one is very close to what I'm looking for!
That plus something like a Machinedrum would do the job I believe

Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:19 pm
by ts50b
tremolo3 wrote:ts50b wrote:I believe the Blofeld keyboard version checks off everything on your list except drums. It can do drum synthesis or playback drum samples on one of the multitimbral channels while you play others if you sequence it externally though
That one is very close to what I'm looking for!
That plus something like a Machinedrum would do the job I believe

Yeah, that would be perfect. When I had a Blofeld module I would use it with a midi sequencer so I could have control of each multitimbral layer. If you paired the keyboard version with something like a Digitakt or Octatrack (not sure if the Machinedrum had a midi sequencer because I've never used one) you could sequence drums and a few layers of the Blofeld, then play a few more on top of that
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:29 pm
by echorec
Sledge 2.0 (can layer parts, has onboard arpeggiator & MIDI with FS keys. also has sampling, so you should be able to do some drum work. it doesn't have onboard sequencing though.)
I have a friend who got a Blofeld, and he hates the programming (he likes using the Digitakt though).

I'd personally prefer the Sledge, because the controls are on the surface.
The Digitakt & Digitone seem to check a lot of your boxes and should perform better than an OP-1, which seems somewhat thin, in terms of its actual sounds.
What about an Organelle or an Empress Zoia? Perhaps you can combine a couple of these for the best results. Good luck.
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:42 pm
by tremolo3
Yes, that Digitakt + Digitone combo looks yummy...
Re: OP-1 alternative but with actual keys? 49 would be nice.
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:34 pm
by Ev_O)))
tremolo3 wrote:Yes, that Digitakt + Digitone combo looks yummy...
Only thing with the digitone is that it's capped at a total of 8 voices of polyphony, and seeing as your post emphasises poly and multitimbral it might not be enough. If you want to use it for multitimbral stuff you're limited to like 2 voices per track or like 4/2/1/1 or any other combination. Might be a tad limiting if you really want to get wild.
That said I think it sounds fantastic and would be a great choice if that's not a problem for you.