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Hey gals and fellas! I have become absolutely fucking obsessed with OM lately and I'm trying to nail the fuzz tone homie uses in the song State of Non Return. I've been researching a bit but I feel like someone here probably just knows the answer. He plays a 5 string, which I don't have one that's working right now, but I can do most of it on a down tuned 4. I saw the tuning is a bit odd, F#, C#, G#, D#, A# (I'm actually kind of questioning the tuning as it's sharps....so, maybe someone can help with that as well....though it could be right).

I mean, the info may be right there in front of me and I'm just a dumb dumb.

I've been doing my own interpretation of some of the riffs for awhile but I found a full on 4 pages of tabs for the song and now I want to actually play the damn thing right.

So, looking for that fuzz. I can get close to it with my Depth Charge but it sound more compressed, maybe a muff? If so, what kind? It's in the video, I just can't make it out.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKqoNrZ00Bg[/youtube]

I just read it's a DOD 250, EHX Pog 2 and Lehle Little Dual, but I also read he uses a Megalith. Hmmmm......

You mean use the huge lot of gear I already have an don't buy anything new?? Ok. I'll do that. LOL

… or you could flip some stuff and get new stuff… to flip?

Jesus Was a Robot wrote: I saw the tuning is a bit odd, F#, C#, G#, D#, A# (I'm actually kind of questioning the tuning as it's sharps....so, maybe someone can help with that as well....though it could be right).

CGDA is a pretty common tuning for instruments tuned in fifths.

Nothin' wrong with sharps either. Right now my guitar is tuned: C# G# C# F# G# C#

I usually tune to DADGAD, wanted to tune CGCFGC, but the tension was weird. So, I made a compromise. Maybe Al had similar tension issues?

I’ve heard a lot of sources say that DOD and/or a DS1. It’s more just the combination of Rickenbacker and really really loud tube amps. Don’t have a Rickenbacker? Then be sure to crank your mids and keep bass and treble pretty flat

Last time I saw Sleep his dirt pedals were an Analogman modded DOD 250 and a BOSS DS-1. He also usually uses a guitar amp along with his SVTs.

First, really fucking good drummer!

Second, for a 5 string bass, if what you read is correct, it is tuned one half sharp of standard cello tuning.

Third, mixing board in video clearly shows three bass tracks and they show a leslie too. You aren't going to achieve that sound with one pedal.

Jwar would never use just one pedal so that shouldn't be a problem

rickenbastard wrote:Rickenbacker and really really loud tube amps. Don’t have a Rickenbacker? Then be sure to crank your mids and keep bass and treble pretty flat

That still doesn't doesn't get you that ric strongyness that only rics have... Sorry only answer my s to get a ric.. And then if you need another tuning you'll just have get another.. And another....

I think he is running the 250 on one amp and the DS-1 on another.
Could be hard to achieve with just 1 amp. A hack solution could be a Boss LS-2 and have 2 loops with different dirts at the same time?

This dude is where I got the tabs from. I realize part of what he's playing is on a cello, but who cares right? That's part of the fun. He nails it too.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS2iH4gvtqs&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]


UGH! After all these years, I can still only get stupid youtube videos to work like half of the time.

Jesus Was a Robot wrote:This dude is where I got the tabs from. I realize part of what he's playing is on a cello, but who cares right? That's part of the fun. He nails it too.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS2iH4gvtqs[/youtube]


UGH! After all these years, I can still only get stupid youtube videos to work like half of the time.

Remove this part, BB: &feature=youtu.be

Mudfuzz wrote:

rickenbastard wrote:Rickenbacker and really really loud tube amps. Don’t have a Rickenbacker? Then be sure to crank your mids and keep bass and treble pretty flat

That still doesn't doesn't get you that ric strongyness that only rics have... Sorry only answer my s to get a ric.. And then if you need another tuning you'll just have get another.. And another....

This is 100% true.

I had no idea Cisneros played a 5 string or that they even made 5 string rics