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Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:40 pm
by affectperdals
I recently got a dead simple -/+ octave pedal and was experimenting with it using other effects. I wanted to see what else could be done with such a simple pedal. I placed it after a reverb and that was kinda cool, gave it a little shimmer effect. I put it in the FX loop of a delay and it ended up sounding like a Count to Five (kinda), each repeat got processed so the octaves kept going up. I mixed it with some super high gain distortion... It made it sound pretty heavy but it wasn't my favorite combo. I was also messing around with it on a drum machine, that had a lot of interesting results, haha. What do you guys and gals think? Got any other ideas for such a simple pedal, something interesting?

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:48 pm
by Chankgeez
Makes for an interesting doorstop.

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:21 pm
by codetocontra
Fuzz into octave down is fun like a faux Blue Box, or vice versa if tracking issues. Or use it in the effects loop of a Super Ego.

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:27 pm
by frodog
affectperdals wrote:I recently got a dead simple -/+ octave pedal
Well, which pedal was it? Tried vocals through an Octave Multiplexer once, it was awesome/terrible.

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:09 pm
by affectperdals
codetocontra wrote:Fuzz into octave down is fun like a faux Blue Box, or vice versa if tracking issues. Or use it in the effects loop of a Super Ego.
I tried it with my triple wreck and it sounded kinda cool with that high gain distortion. The lower octave tracking is kinda wonky when you go full wet though. It's a simple pedal, hard to compete with something like the HOG2, ya know?

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:10 pm
by affectperdals
frodog wrote:
affectperdals wrote:I recently got a dead simple -/+ octave pedal
Well, which pedal was it? Tried vocals through an Octave Multiplexer once, it was awesome/terrible.
My bad, it's the Monastery by Hungry Robot

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:25 pm
by Chankgeez
I think it makes a difference if the octave pedal is analog or digital.

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:35 pm
by affectperdals
Chankgeez wrote:I think it makes a difference if the octave pedal is analog or digital.
You mean in terms of latency?

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:43 pm
by Chankgeez
Well, not necessarily, but that too. I definitely appreciate the glitchiness of analog octave pedals.

I meant that digital pedals can sound harsh in a different way and/or react differently to things than analog. I like sticking an octave pedal farther along the chain than conventional wisdom dictates. Analog pedals can get pretty harsh that way. I wouldn't wanna imagine how nasty a digital octave'd sound in a similar placement.

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:08 pm
by crochambeau
Feedback loops, synths, and other drone sources.

I like sloppy tracking regions as it follows a decaying note, but with a wet/dry so you can tuck lopsided motor boating into the fold of subtle texture.

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:43 am
by Bartimaeus
The Monastary sounds very much like it uses an FV-1 for the octave shifting (I'd be interested to see gut shots).

Octave pedal before an envelope filter can be really cool.

For something more useful than rainbow-machine noises, try sticking it in a delay effects loop but with the feedback set to zero and the pedal set for an octave up only. Set the delay time to a dotted rhythm and play in straight time. You'll get cool octave up counterpoint on the off-beats between your playing. That's the only way I can make pitch-shifting delays usable tbh.

If you have a little mixer pedal or even a separate amp, you can get great stuff by splitting your signal and putting some much heavier modulation effects on the pitch shifted signal. A reverb's clean guitar paired with a vibrato'd and tremolo'd octave up could be way more interesting than a shimmer verb if you get the settings right.

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:25 am
by JonnyAngle
Chankgeez wrote:Well, not necessarily, but that too. I definitely appreciate the glitchiness of analog octave pedals.

I meant that digital pedals can sound harsh in a different way and/or react differently to things than analog. I like sticking an octave pedal farther along the chain than conventional wisdom dictates. Analog pedals can get pretty harsh that way. I wouldn't wanna imagine how nasty a digital octave'd sound in a similar placement.
Imo digital octave sounds best after gain stages, analog before

But yeah same thing but wwaaaaay different

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:26 am
by JonnyAngle
JonnyAngle wrote:
Chankgeez wrote:Well, not necessarily, but that too. I definitely appreciate the glitchiness of analog octave pedals.

I meant that digital pedals can sound harsh in a different way and/or react differently to things than analog. I like sticking an octave pedal farther along the chain than conventional wisdom dictates. Analog pedals can get pretty harsh that way. I wouldn't wanna imagine how nasty a digital octave'd sound in a similar placement.
Imo digital octave sounds best after gain stages, analog before

But yeah same thing but wwaaaaay different
Octaves sound really good with reverbs, Flanders, and distortions.

I haven’t had great luck with envelope filters>octaves

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:01 am
by Chankgeez
Bartimaeus wrote:
For something more useful than rainbow-machine noises...
Hey, man, don't be shittin' on Rainbow Machine noises! :!!!:
JonnyAngle wrote: Octaves sound really good with reverbs, Flanders, and distortions.
Flanders?

Yes, especially in Bruges.

Although, I've been told they also sound really good in Wallonia.

I like analog octaves both before and after dirt. Actually, sandwiched between dirts is the best. I think it's more difficult to get good sounds with digital octaves without messing around a lot, but maybe that's just me. Seems it takes me more work to get them sounding really nice. I feel like they need to be more processed by other effects or something. :idk:

I like both octave > envelope filter & envelope filter > octave. Depends on what I'm wanting to hear. The latter has the potential to get real cray. :animal:

Re: Different Applications of an Octave Pedal

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:37 pm
by JonnyAngle
Chankgeez wrote:
Flanders?
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