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Is there a way to use a normal mixer that doesn't have lots of FX loops to have samplers in each of the mixer channels?

I was thinking if I had a splitter I built or something where my guitar output goes to a splitter and each splitter out goes to a sampler/looper/delay and then into an individual mixer channel, when use the main mixer output. That would work, right?

Would it be good to have a level or switch control for the output of each channel on the splitter? If I'm running basically a duplicate of my signal into say 4 separate mixer channels, will that cause an overall increase in gain and noise?

I do this with a Pladask Matrisse. I split 6 ways into Circular Labs Mobius and loop each of the 6 individually. It's a blast. I don't recombine them with a mixer but you certainly could and you could even do it with the same matrix mixer (Pladask Matrisse) if you so desired. If you want to go down this path, you just need to have an idea how many channels of looping you want and decide whether you want to recombine them after looping. Knut at Pladask would be happy to build you the matrix mixer you need (have no money interest in Pladask, just a satisfied customer).

Can it duplicate one input to the four outputs? That's what I need/am talking about.

Yes, that's what it is made to do.

So if you were going to have a guitar input split to four outputs, you would only need a 1x4. But if you were going to remix them after you've split them, you would want a 5x5 or 5x6, depending if you want to remix to mono or stereo. That would be one input for your guitar, four inputs for the signals that were split and four outputs for the split signal plus one for mono or two for stereo.

You could use the customizing software with the Roland Scooper to patch your input signal to four submodules (filters, distortion, short delay, eq etc), add an LFO submodule to modulate the filters, then patch the four effected signals into the Scooper's looper & scatter effect, and on to the output, which can be mono or stereo...and you'll still have space for one more submodule.

get/build something like a fewtility one (it only has 3 outputs) and any mixer

there shouldn't be an increase in gain or noise if the buffer is done proper unless you're going the passive route. the original signal will be way quieter instead.

Warpsmasher wrote:You could use the customizing software with the Roland Scooper to patch your input signal to four submodules (filters, distortion, short delay, eq etc), add an LFO submodule to modulate the filters, then patch the four effected signals into the Scooper's looper & scatter effect, and on to the output, which can be mono or stereo...and you'll still have space for one more submodule.

You got me curious so just bought one. Need to find something that will convert midi clock to cv or gate......

It's a great editing program, basically a virtual modular mini rack of 6 extra modules inside the box...and it's not just virtual modular, it's stackable virtual modular. Unlimited cable stacking takes it to the next level.
These are self-generating patches I made with the software to run inside the Scooper, that don't even mess with the knob or jack functions, and can be run through the main effect/looper: https://soundcloud.com/warpsmasher/rola ... on-patches
Basically, extreme virtual cable stacking makes this possible. LFOs and filters mostly, patched to everything and each other.

Do you have any of the other three?

Yeah, I have all 4. The Scooper was one of my first eurorack purchases, and I really clicked with the software while I was waiting for more things to play with, so I completed the set pretty quickly. The set of four basically equals a high end virtual analog synth, so it's really great to have them incorporated with a eurorack system. They make the journey more fun, for sure. They just take so much weight off...when you need something, you've always got it.

can confirm that the aira virtual modules are fun as fuck. wish you could get it to send CV tho! the possibilities are pretty crazy as it is. super simple interface. barely started digging into the virtual side yesterday :P

Are you all using them with guitar?

resincum wrote:can confirm that the aira virtual modules are fun as fuck. wish you could get it to send CV tho! the possibilities are pretty crazy as it is. super simple interface. barely started digging into the virtual side yesterday :P

They can send CV from the outputs! Just patch an LFO submodule's output to out 1 or 2. You can also pass any CV they receive from outside through to the second output if you're only doing mono audio. Unlimited cable stacking is unlimited.

manymanyhaha wrote:Are you all using them with guitar?

Usually in more of a utilitarian way than as a main effect. I use the Torcido as an 8 input stereo mixer with volume boosts on a couple of channels, one for guitar and one for phone/ipod. You can set up some pretty cool envelope/synth patches, but there is no submodule for pitch tracking, so they usually come out like sound effects and rhythmic filter stuff. The Bitrazer has really good filters, and the Demora is a much more capable delay than it appears to be on the surface. This is a patch I made to add some analog character to the repeats of the Demora:

The strip of jacks across the bottom represents the surface jacks on the module, from the inside. The inputs are stacked to crossfaders to preserve dry/wet knob function. The wet knob on the virtual demora is maxed, to send the full effect signal through 3 more submodules for additional processing. Knob & CV control for dry/wet (GRF4) is disconnected from the virtual demora and patched to the crossfaders, which blend the clean input with the processed delay.
The muff thread: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... e2d6908de2

I have that effectively with my main rack setup.

Master board (that goes into everything, hence, master board) > Boss GL-100 rackmount (can just use it as a clean preamp, which is what I do 99% of the time), 6x outs if you get an XLR adapter (4x otherwise), plus two additional if you just want to send unaffected signal downline skipping the preamp as well. I have 2 of those, and haven't needed to go 12 downstream, but...one output feeds a discrete channel to a Digitech RDS delay, Quadraverb+, Lexicon Vortex, Midiverb II, and a Timebender typically into the interface mixer.

sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread. going to start a separate aira modular thread because I have some questions