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Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:17 pm
by DRodriguez
I really love wave folding distortions and do it frequently digitally. Anyone know of any pedals that focus on it? I have seen some modular stuff incorporate it.

The only one I've found is the Soundblox Multiwave Distortion, but I was really not a fan of the only distortion I've picked up from them.

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:26 pm
by D.o.S.
There are some schems out there for modular but I don't know about an inproduction or massed produced stomp:
http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgs29_ ... plier.html
http://www.cgs.synth.net/modules/cgs52_folder.html

Also this thread has some good info in it but the main schematic is dead:
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/i ... ic=32591.0

And, as mentioned a couple of times in that DIYStomp thread, the filter isn't really designed for a guitar input in mind. Not sure of any offhand that are.

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:38 pm
by Dark Barn
I think it sounds best on simple wave forms, complex wave forms it is harder to hear the folding. On synths also the amplitude is uniform, on guitar I guess it would sound like a blast of distortion that would gate into a clean decay, it might sound kind of sucky! But maybe it would be cool? . No pedals that I know of do it off hand but maybe there are some bitcrushers that do.

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:38 pm
by D.o.S.
Yeah you would have to boost the shit out of the signal to get it to sound "right"

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:52 pm
by ck3
The Noisereap Nr1 Asstone produces this type of effect, but I think the builder has transitioned from pedals to modular gear at this point.

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:16 pm
by lordgalvar
Synthmonger made one. It was OK. They had a deluxe one coming out, but dude seems to have had some rough business dealings lately.

Get a ladik input and a ladik timbre (or nlc or whatever) and you'll be close for cheap.

They will want as close to triangle wave as possible for maximum effect. Squarewave doesn't work all that well.

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:08 am
by chrisdermo
Are prunes and custard, zvex machine, and Geiger counter not wave folders? (Clueless) :?:

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:36 am
by lordgalvar
Geiger counter is a digital wave guide/wave table modulator (I think maybe it can get kinda close but you'll be messing with the wavetable not the actual signal). Crowther is intermodulation distortion iirc (though reading the description again...It could be) and machine tries to boost the fall after a peak. That's at least how I remember them explained..

Just read something that both crowther and zvex are crossover distortion. It is slight shaping, but different from pure wave folding.

Totally relevant and reminds me I want the crowther!

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:24 am
by dunbine
Been looking at the Marbeau Tridriver for a while, and it has a wave folder. Not exactly a pedal, and not sure if it's exactly the same as discussed here?

http://marbeausynth.com/product/tridriver-2/

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Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:44 pm
by Inconuucl
Old source audio soundblox distortions do this in spades. :)*

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:45 pm
by D.o.S.
You have to factor in the cost of rehousing them, though :lol:

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:01 pm
by crochambeau
What about just wave folding an octave section? The conventional approach is already spitting out a fixed waveform at a fixed amplitude (and square to triangle conversion isn't too crazy so long as the frequency range is not too broad, and there are workarounds to that limitation at the expense of complexity/cost).

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:52 pm
by K2000
ck3 wrote:The Noisereap Nr1 Asstone produces this type of effect, but I think the builder has transitioned from pedals to modular gear at this point.
I bought an Asstone on Reverb a while back, it's... a distortion. I can't really offer commentary on it, because I've never been able to blast it. It sounds like other rude distortion pedals at bedroom levels, that's my review for now.

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:29 pm
by ck3
K2000 wrote:I bought an Asstone on Reverb a while back, it's... a distortion. I can't really offer commentary on it, because I've never been able to blast it. It sounds like other rude distortion pedals at bedroom levels, that's my review for now.
If your Asstone is functioning correctly, it should sound like a gated muff at lower gain and transition into gnarly, synth-like foldback distortion when the input gain level clips the pedal and/or the onboard gain control is set in its upper range. There are multiple Nr1 demo clips on Soundcloud that demonstrate the pedal's capabilities.

Re: Wave folding pedal?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:29 pm
by manymanyhaha
What is wave folding?