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Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:19 pm
by JereFuzz
Here's a few I love (styles can vary greatly :) ):

Fairlight CMI:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp43OdtAAkM[/youtube]

Yamaha DX7:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uejh-bHa4To[/youtube]

Korg M1:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps2Jc28tQrw[/youtube]

Not sure, apparently used lots of synths for the Geography album:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGMqLP-DIaM[/youtube]

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:44 am
by D.o.S.
Tained Love was a Maxi-Korg and a Synclaiver, I believe, and Sweet Dreams (by the Eurythmics, obvi) was an Oberheim OB-X.

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:20 pm
by bloatedsack
I'm a raging fan of Front 242's earliest work, but if we're going synth then I've gotta say if I'm picking my favourite pure synth music, in no order:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTuuXL8lakE[/youtube]
Which is Walter (pre-Wendy) Carlos and an original Moog.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbG-rGZgx0[/youtube]
Which is evidently a Yamaha CS80.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NPJ6GMXM3E[/youtube]
Which, IIRC, was all made by them just recording raw tones then cutting up tape and putting it back together. I don't like Dr Who, but I will stop and listen to the opening credits if I ever hear, anywhere and anytime.
NSFW: show
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_theme_music
The original 1963 recording of the Doctor Who theme music is widely regarded as a significant and innovative piece of electronic music, recorded well before the availability of commercial synthesisers. Delia Derbyshire (assisted by Dick Mills) of the BBC Radiophonic Workshop used musique concrète techniques to realise a score written by composer Ron Grainer. Each note was individually created by cutting, splicing, speeding up and slowing down segments of analogue tape containing recordings of a single plucked string, white noise, and the simple harmonic waveforms of test-tone oscillators which were used for calibrating equipment and rooms, not creating music. The main, pulsing bassline rhythm was created from a recording of a single plucked string, played over and over again in different patterns created by splicing copies of the sound, with different pitches and notes achieved by playing the sample in different speeds. The swooping melody and lower bassline layer were created by manually adjusting the pitch of oscillator banks to a carefully timed pattern. The non-swooping parts of the melody were created by playing a keyboard attached to the oscillator banks. The rhythmic hissing sounds, "bubbles" and "clouds", were created by cutting tape recordings of filtered white noise.[1]

Once each sound had been created, it was modified. Some sounds were created at all the required pitches direct from the oscillators, others had to be repitched later by adjusting the tape playback speed and re-recording the sound onto another tape player. This process continued until every sound was available at all the required pitches. To create dynamics, the notes were re-recorded at slightly different levels.

Each individual note was then trimmed to length by cutting the tape, and stuck together in the right order. This was done for each "line" in the music – the main plucked bass, the bass slides (an organ-like tone emphasising the grace notes), the hisses, the swoops, the melody, a second melody line (a high organ-like tone used for emphasis), and the bubbles and clouds. Most of these individual bits of tape making up lines of music, complete with edits every inch, still survive.

This done, the music had to be "mixed". There were no multitrack tape machines, so rudimentary multitrack techniques were invented: each length of tape was placed on a separate tape machine and all the machines were started simultaneously and the outputs mixed together. If the machines didn't stay in sync, they started again, maybe cutting tapes slightly here and there to help. In fact, a number of "submixes" were made to ease the process – a combined bass track, combined melody track, bubble track, and hisses.
Also, the entire Kraftwerk backcatalogue 'til The Man-Machine, after which it's still good but not as good. IIRC, they just built all their own shit, too, but I assume someone here will gladly correct me.

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:38 pm
by $harkToootth
I think the DX7 was used on GEOGRAPHY for a lot the material. I base that on this demo from God himself.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/R-hML-I5RV0[/youtube]

Delia Derbyshire (DR. WHO) did not like synthesizers (granted the EMS stuff was probably all she was exposed to).

David Bowie - Breaking Glass - ARP Solina (not a synth riff in this song but I love the synth sounds)
[youtube]https://youtu.be/IgdCIAEupNI[/youtube]

THE UNITS - Warm Moving Bodies - Believe it or not a minimoog! To me the most creative use of one.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/RogryxU7s6M[\youtube]

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:05 pm
by JereFuzz
I saw front 242 live :)

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:46 pm
by tremolo3
This thread <33

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:57 pm
by bloatedsack
JereFuzz wrote:I saw front 242 live :)
1991, Lollapoolza. It was bright fucking sun outside, the fog machines looked silly and everyone I went with gave no shits but couldn't wait for Pearl Jam.

I think that year was both 242 and Jesus and Mary Chain, who also performed in bright sunlight. Maybe they were seperate. Doesn't matter. Standout moments from a shitty outdoor festival.

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:14 pm
by JereFuzz
bloatedsack wrote:I'm a raging fan of Front 242's earliest work, but if we're going synth then I've gotta say if I'm picking my favourite pure synth music, in no order:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTuuXL8lakE[/youtube]
Which is Walter (pre-Wendy) Carlos and an original Moog.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbG-rGZgx0[/youtube]
Which is evidently a Yamaha CS80.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NPJ6GMXM3E[/youtube]
Which, IIRC, was all made by them just recording raw tones then cutting up tape and putting it back together. I don't like Dr Who, but I will stop and listen to the opening credits if I ever hear, anywhere and anytime.
NSFW: show
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_theme_music
The original 1963 recording of the Doctor Who theme music is widely regarded as a significant and innovative piece of electronic music, recorded well before the availability of commercial synthesisers. Delia Derbyshire (assisted by Dick Mills) of the BBC Radiophonic Workshop used musique concrète techniques to realise a score written by composer Ron Grainer. Each note was individually created by cutting, splicing, speeding up and slowing down segments of analogue tape containing recordings of a single plucked string, white noise, and the simple harmonic waveforms of test-tone oscillators which were used for calibrating equipment and rooms, not creating music. The main, pulsing bassline rhythm was created from a recording of a single plucked string, played over and over again in different patterns created by splicing copies of the sound, with different pitches and notes achieved by playing the sample in different speeds. The swooping melody and lower bassline layer were created by manually adjusting the pitch of oscillator banks to a carefully timed pattern. The non-swooping parts of the melody were created by playing a keyboard attached to the oscillator banks. The rhythmic hissing sounds, "bubbles" and "clouds", were created by cutting tape recordings of filtered white noise.[1]

Once each sound had been created, it was modified. Some sounds were created at all the required pitches direct from the oscillators, others had to be repitched later by adjusting the tape playback speed and re-recording the sound onto another tape player. This process continued until every sound was available at all the required pitches. To create dynamics, the notes were re-recorded at slightly different levels.

Each individual note was then trimmed to length by cutting the tape, and stuck together in the right order. This was done for each "line" in the music – the main plucked bass, the bass slides (an organ-like tone emphasising the grace notes), the hisses, the swoops, the melody, a second melody line (a high organ-like tone used for emphasis), and the bubbles and clouds. Most of these individual bits of tape making up lines of music, complete with edits every inch, still survive.

This done, the music had to be "mixed". There were no multitrack tape machines, so rudimentary multitrack techniques were invented: each length of tape was placed on a separate tape machine and all the machines were started simultaneously and the outputs mixed together. If the machines didn't stay in sync, they started again, maybe cutting tapes slightly here and there to help. In fact, a number of "submixes" were made to ease the process – a combined bass track, combined melody track, bubble track, and hisses.
Also, the entire Kraftwerk backcatalogue 'til The Man-Machine, after which it's still good but not as good. IIRC, they just built all their own shit, too, but I assume someone here will gladly correct me.
Great ones! What about the Drive theme song? ...

[youtube]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OHDqV1BEiqw[/youtube]

Synth: unknown

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:58 am
by $harkToootth
DRIVE was Cliff Martinez under the moniker KAVINSKY. I have an article I read about his recurring gear when I wanted to know what was going on with THE KNICK score. I will follow up on that later.

Derailing the thread. Is there something like this topic but with pedals? Like I would love to know what THE JESUS AND Mary CHAIN used on PSYCHOCANDY. I'm sure it wasn't mush since they were so poor and gear that is now 'coveted' was not so trendy then. I recently read about DEADMOON'S equipment and thought "How could they afford that?" Then remembered Ampeg heads weren't so hip in the mid 80s.

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:37 am
by bloatedsack
$harkToootth wrote:Like I would love to know what THE JESUS AND Mary CHAIN used on PSYCHOCANDY
Shin Ei fuzz wah.

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:33 pm
by MechaGodzilla
$harkToootth wrote:DRIVE was Cliff Martinez under the moniker KAVINSKY. I have an article I read about his recurring gear when I wanted to know what was going on with THE KNICK score. I will follow up on that later.
Kavinsky is a french synthwave/80s soundtrack revival producer, they just used one of his songs in the film. iirc he mainly just uses in-the-box softsynths [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErQNRwH-Hmk[/youtube]

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:08 pm
by $harkToootth
MechaGodzilla wrote:
$harkToootth wrote:DRIVE was Cliff Martinez under the moniker KAVINSKY. I have an article I read about his recurring gear when I wanted to know what was going on with THE KNICK score. I will follow up on that later.
Kavinsky is a french synthwave/80s soundtrack revival producer, they just used one of his songs in the film. iirc he mainly just uses in-the-box softsynths [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErQNRwH-Hmk[/youtube]
Aw hell I knew that! Whoops! If anyone knows dated French electro it's me!
bloatedsack wrote:
$harkToootth wrote:Like I would love to know what THE JESUS AND Mary CHAIN used on PSYCHOCANDY
Shin Ei fuzz wah.
Dude...you give me knowledge yet again! Thank you! Do you listen to Mort Garson per chance?

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:32 am
by Faldoe
What what I read they use a Juno and Nord. Love Trans Am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7JDw8vvwNY[/youtube]

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:12 pm
by $harkToootth
Anyway, if people like Carlos. Check out Mort Garson 70's material. Used the Moog system. And if you don't know it, check out the score for INVOCATION OF MY DEMON brother. Mick Jagger did it on....a Moog system!

Re: Great Synth Riffs & Equipment Used

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:55 pm
by chrisdermo
$harkToootth wrote:Anyway, if people like Carlos. Check out Mort Garson 70's material. Used the Moog system. And if you don't know it, check out the score for INVOCATION OF MY DEMON brother. Mick Jagger did it on....a Moog system!
Good shout, Mort Garson is amazing!