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Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:31 am
by Bearstripes
I know there is already a thread on this but I have narrowed it down and I need quick advice before I pull the trigger. I just got a minilouge and want to pair it with a drum machine. The only ones that jump out at me are the volca beats, volca sample, and the teenage engineering one.

Which one?
I dunno.

Any thing else o should look at?

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:24 am
by friendship
I just Logged On to ILF for a nearly identical reason; I just got a Minibrute and have been looking at these machines as well. :snax:

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:28 pm
by WayToHip
I have a volca beats and it's fun to use but I feel like it is more of an instrument for live performance than a drum tool.

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:02 pm
by friendship
WayToHip wrote:I have a volca beats and it's fun to use but I feel like it is more of an instrument for live performance than a drum tool.
I'd love to hear more of your thoughts about that. I'm leaning towards the volca for a recording project, but I would probably want to record each drum individually so I can have control over individual levels during mixing. But maybe that's at odds with its performance functions?

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:09 pm
by resincum
friendship wrote: I would probably want to record each drum individually so I can have control over individual levels during mixing. But maybe that's at odds with its performance functions?
duuude, get a drumbrute :snax:

it's pricey compared to your list, but it's so worth it

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:25 pm
by friendship
resincum wrote:
friendship wrote: I would probably want to record each drum individually so I can have control over individual levels during mixing. But maybe that's at odds with its performance functions?
duuude, get a drumbrute :snax:

it's pricey compared to your list, but it's so worth it
It does look Extremely Dope and might be worth selling some peds for. The only thing I don't like about it is the snare sound, which is kind of a big deal for me (weirdly I think the Volca's snare sounds better). But I haven't written it off on that basis, I'm still very interested in how the snare can be worked with/processed. Did you get one?

sorry bearstripes this is my thread now. :animal:

jk

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:40 pm
by resincum
totally agree on the snare sound. not a problem once you add a dirt pedal to the mix tho! yes I have one, spent a couple of hours messing with it last night :lol: easy to get lost in that thing. my favorite part about it is the looper feature. you can get fucking CRAZY with it.

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:16 pm
by Bearstripes
dude, we can totatlly share it's a good bb.

But yea, I'm poor and drumbrute cost money.

I'm really looking to decide between the 3. " leaning towards the beats but the sample seems interesting as well and am not sure which would benefit me more. The teenage engineering one seems cool but limited but figured I would get an opinion on it cause it's cheap n shit

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:34 pm
by baremountain
I have the Beats and I've been looking to swap it for a Sample for a while - I don't really like the built-in sounds on the Beats. The kick is like 4x louder than the rest of the kit (maybe to compensate for no bass on the built-in 1.5" speaker?) so every time you boot it/load a pattern you have to turn that down or your mix will get wrecked with low-end. The Sample seems like a more difficult challenge to get the workflow down, but one that'd be well worth it in the end, esp once you figure out how to import samples.
All that said, the Drumbrute seems like the most full-featured & drum machine I've seen, and I say you should just buy it and ask questions later.

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:02 pm
by echorec
Part of the reason I bought a Volca Beats was UC's Bicycle demo. Beats comes in just after 4:30. I haven't spent too much time with my own Beats yet, but you can certainly do some odd rhythms, psychedelic loops, and alien textures with little to no outside help.

I don't think I have the patience to use the Pocket Operators, or the luxury of extra recreational time to create custom samples for the Volca Sample. I went with the Beats, because it seemed like the most user-friendly with the most immediate rewards.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTAyPoFR3DE[/youtube]

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:30 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
if u mean the PO Rhythm by "the TE one". it smokes the volca beats sound wise. volca beats is like pretty average sounding analog drums. not a ton of tweak ability.

volca sample is more capable but then that depends on the samples you load up inside it.

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:29 am
by Bearstripes
I think echorec answered my question. Gonna go with the beats. I need something that I don't have to spend a lot of time with to figure out cause I don't have a lot of time to do any thing.

Thanks for the help

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:15 am
by popvulture
I very much second Resincum's DB enthusiasm—I love mine. Plus the snare indeed takes effects well and can be beefed up a bit.

Totally get that it's out of your range at the moment, though. FWIW one good thing is that Arturia is a fairly big brand that likes to move units, so their stuff isn't usually excluded from sales, or at least not that I've ever seen. I got mine from Perfect Circuit during Black Friday for 20% off. Deals to be had out there if you keep an eye out in the future :animal:

In the meantime that Beats will be fun as hell for you :)*

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:24 pm
by GAS KING
I went with the Arturia SparkLE. Since I do not expect to be performing with it. (you could, but relying on software seems iffy to me)

You pretty much have every drum sound you can think of at your disposal.

I've read that hardcore enthusiasts do not like it, but for me, seems really cool so far.
No clue what I'm doing. Just need to spend time with it.

Re: Speaking of drum machines

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:37 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
I got a beats recently for the same reason you did, immediacy and price. I think it's great for what it is, way to use and fun to play, the sounds are OK but not great. Good enough for me though, I'm running it through pedals anyway mostly.