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My Dunable
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:57 pm
by SPACERITUAL
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:29 am
by Iommic Pope
Is that seriously a semen stain in the case?
Not gonna sugar coat it, there are some things about that which are still not 100% to my eye, but what the fuck do I know?
I say a lefty yeti on their IG feed the other day though, and thought a reverse one would be sweet as fuck.
How's it play?
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:32 am
by waltdogg
as a tech who sees way too many guitars a day, that's really not any worse than the deviation you see on new high end guitars that are pass produced. builder/manufacturer gets comfortable and qc slips.
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:47 am
by Iommic Pope
When prices hover at the $2K mark I think Space has fair recourse to be shitty with that.
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:49 am
by waltdogg
oh of course. it's pretty much the same thing as a customer being pissed when their new $2k gibby or w/e is just as fucked. and i totally understand. i try my best to setup and fix up all the high end stuff that comes in fucked up but there's just me. this is just sad if anything. i didn't wanna throw shade on dunable either.
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:23 am
by Iommic Pope
Yeah werd.
Yeah his stuff looks REAL good, but this is somewhat unsettling.
At least he stood behind his product and did the rectification work.
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:52 am
by DarkAxel
Have you ever owned a small production, "boutique" instrument, that you didn't pick apart looking for details why to be unhappy with it?
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:41 pm
by waltdogg
not sure if thats sarcasm or not. so the answer is both.
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:45 pm
by SPACERITUAL
DarkAxel wrote:Have you ever owned a small production, "boutique" instrument, that you didn't pick apart looking for details why to be unhappy with it?
Have you ever let me post anything without being a contrarian for absolutely no reason? Like what did you gain by posting that? You arent contributing to the thread in any way. Last I checked, you've only ever been interested in cheap or second hand guitars, so why even bother?
Dudes have been messaging me about the guitar for almost two years now and I figured enough time had gone by that I could post it without totally fucking over the builder. So I did. None of the stuff in the pics is indicative of a handmade product as it is of just being sloppy work. Case closed.
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:25 pm
by rustywire
There really is no excuse for new, custom instruments to arrive looking rushed or unfinished, when they are pitched/presented/justified as carrying a premium pricetag for being crafted by hand, with care. I"ve seen better detailing on $100 Tokais and Teiscos made 40-50 years ago. Couldn't even include a new $80 gig bag? Fuck off.
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:04 pm
by Iommic Pope
rustywire wrote:There really is no excuse for new, custom instruments to arrive looking rushed or unfinished, when they are pitched/presented/justified as carrying a premium pricetag for being crafted by hand, with care. I"ve seen better detailing on $100 Tokais and Teiscos made 40-50 years ago. Couldn't even include a new $80 gig bag? Fuck off.
So much this.
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:22 am
by dunbine
Just wanted to say thanks to SPACERITUAL for sharing the benefit of his experience. As someone who is interested in Dunable guitars, I was one of those who PM'd asking for information but I couldn't view the pics he sent over. I could try to call & visit Sacha, but I'm looking for owner opinions first. It looks like RevAmp is a reasonable drive away and they might have Dunable inventory. If I can make it down there and see if things have improved, I'll report back with findings. Anyone else suited to do the same at CME?
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:15 am
by DarkAxel
SPACERITUAL wrote:DarkAxel wrote:Have you ever owned a small production, "boutique" instrument, that you didn't pick apart looking for details why to be unhappy with it?
Have you ever let me post anything without being a contrarian for absolutely no reason? Like what did you gain by posting that? You arent contributing to the thread in any way. Last I checked, you've only ever been interested in cheap or second hand guitars, so why even bother?
last I checked I spent 1500€ on a Rickenbacker
but that's beside the point, which I would like to explain because I went too sarcastic, sorry about that. My point is that I have seen you criticizing "boutique" or handmade guitars and I can't help thinking that you might be a bit too hard on the builders. I mean - sure, I can imagine that after paying above a certain amount, you'd like the instrument to be perfect. But I'm sorry but I think that expectation is illogical - especially when you're dealing with smaller companies. Those are still people, handmaking the instruments for a considerable amount of the process.
It would be much more logical expecting really good results from a bigger company that runs a custom shop, that has the hi-tech machinery combined with the human element and the resources to re-do any fuckups ad nauseam and asks for a lot of money and then delivers a subpar product. It's like being unhappy with occasional differences in handmade pedals' sound - that to me is what comes from the imperfection of the human, small production element because they can't/won't/don't have the resources to perfectly match and pick all the components. That's what you're actually paying for I'd even say
Maybe you've been really unlucky. But I remember seeing your photos of the EGC and thinking "that's not too bad tho?" or "I don't see what he means" etc. Here, I see what you mean, the bridge doesn't line up with the pickguard - maybe it's a badly cut pickguard, which I think is more probable and which is not such an issue as it can be easily replaced. The gigbag is bad, yes. But the neck/fingerboard issues I'd not see as drastically problematic
What I'm saying is... Maybe you're too hard on these builders. Maybe I'm wrong, sure... All I know is that I have bought an expensive instrument from a company that is known for certain problems with QC and I'm happy with it. Is it perfect? It's not. And I paid 1500€ which, for me, is
for example half a year of rent for my room with utilities. My dad will give me some of that next year as a present but now I worked two part time jobs for a couple months to be able to afford that, paid that from my money, and although the instrument is not perfect, I am happy I got it. I was aware of the possibility I might get a dud, I didn't and that's fine. I know what I like about it and why it was worth all the effort and I do not pick it apart. I could and could make myself way unhappy with it, but I don't want to live like that as I accept imperfections

As has been mentioned - I have seen expensive instruments from big companies that were worse than yours. QC is one thing, but again - the human element I mentioned is also a factor, even moreso in this case.
If I seem overly contrarian to your posts, I apologize. You've changed and I've come to not like your attitude. But I try not to be a dick about it. In this case, I just felt like saying something because... shit it just felt like you've been making yourself unhappier than you need to be by picking something apart way too much
PS: a friend of mine just got his Dunable RD and I haven't seen any issues I'd notice with it. Feel free to write that off as "DA doesn't see anything through his rose-tinted glasses" as I might be too benevolent, but that's my 0.02

Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:10 pm
by rustywire
Imperfections in a custom, handmade guitar are one thing. In fact, they should be expected to some extent. I don't think that's the issue.
But a custom guitar crossing the 4-figure threshold and arriving "unfinished" or "good enough" is something else entirely. Over the past several years Gibby has been garnering a rep for suffering in that regard, with (for example) sharp frets on $3500 production models. WRT attention to detail; while perfection may be a tall order, exceptional is possible to achieve, nor is it unreasonable to expect such a standard if you're paying a premium for [it].
Re: My Dunable
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:36 pm
by Disarm D'arcy
Am I the only one who read the thread title as "My dumble" and clicked because Spacey with a blues lawyer amp would be so funny?
