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The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:48 am
by larssonn
Does anybody have ANY infirmatiin on the guitarists in this band? String gauge, pedals, amps, you name it!
I've seen that Nick Dellacroce uses some Marshall and sound city and I think I've seen some emperor cabs.
I know they have a bongripper pedal made by fuzzrocious but I think I'll be fine there with my RAT's. But the string gauges are driving me nuts. I'm at 17-74 now and still get rattles with quite the action.. maybe I need a truss rod adjustment.

Any information will help and I just know this is the place to look as I've always gotten my questions sorted out by y'all!

Thanks!

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:00 am
by Chankgeez
You should just PM memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=88

He hasn't logged in in a while, but, who knows, he just may stop by and answer all your questions. :idk:

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:24 am
by Iommic Pope
Ron also posts on IG @ronripper

But he's probably mentioned that shit in the Doom Room. We had a whole week where we talked shit about string gauges a while back. Run a search on the thread.

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:56 am
by D.o.S.
Can't speak for guitarists but Ronripper used to rotate gear pretty constantly ~6-7 years ago on Talkbass and here. He also had a Douglas Adams-themed bass preamp built for him by Dunwich because he's got great taste, obvi.

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:10 am
by larssonn
I shot a message to Ron on IG and ill have a look around here, thanks for the replies all, and by all means keep em coming! I feel like alot of us would benifit from a discussion like this :yay:

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:21 am
by odontophobia
larssonn wrote:Does anybody have ANY infirmatiin on the guitarists in this band? String gauge, pedals, amps, you name it!
I've seen that Nick Dellacroce uses some Marshall and sound city and I think I've seen some emperor cabs.
I know they have a bongripper pedal made by fuzzrocious but I think I'll be fine there with my RAT's. But the string gauges are driving me nuts. I'm at 17-74 now and still get rattles with quite the action.. maybe I need a truss rod adjustment.

Any information will help and I just know this is the place to look as I've always gotten my questions sorted out by y'all!

Thanks!
pretty sure their custom fuzzrocious is the demon | rat combo.

so OCD RAT combo. Easy enough to pickup an OCD.

tuning is something ludicious like f# or something, i think.

doing some sluething:
ronripper wrote:Here is where most of my Devi love ended up...


My Ambient/Shoegaze board. Which the middle section is also used as the guitarist in Bongripper's main pedal board.

Image

Goes a little like this...

Ibanez Dual Loop Selector (A/B/C switch...guitar/bass/synth) > EHX Stereo Clone Theory (set to vibrato) > E13 Yin Yang Boost > Tuner > E13 Beautiful Disaster > DE Dark Boost > MXR Carbon Copy > E13 JP Volume Cut > Zvex Lo-Fi Loop Junkie > Boomerang Phrase Sampler

in the loop of the Beautiful Disaster...

Loop > DE ShoeGazer > MXR Phase 90 > Catalinbread Semaphore Tremolo > Boss Stereo Volume Pedal > Pigronix Echolution (working on getting some more expression pedals or peep's for Delay Time and Feedback control) > Boss DD-6 (always on reverse) > Digitech XP-400 Reverberator > Loop


But yeah from the Tuner to the Lo-Fi is what is used regularly in Bongripper. All the other stuff I add in for when I do my solo stuff.
CoolName wrote:
ronripper wrote:The bass setup....

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The guitar setup....

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Doom
i dont even wanna be in the same state when all this amazing shit is being played.

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:22 am
by odontophobia
admittedly, some of that shit is from 2013 so I'm sure a ton has changed.

also, digging through some of the old "show your amp" has some seriously dope shit in there.
old shit from conky, ancientastronaut, ron ripper, and sam adams.
some glorious shit.

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:28 pm
by larssonn
odontophobia wrote:
larssonn wrote:Does anybody have ANY infirmatiin on the guitarists in this band? String gauge, pedals, amps, you name it!
I've seen that Nick Dellacroce uses some Marshall and sound city and I think I've seen some emperor cabs.
I know they have a bongripper pedal made by fuzzrocious but I think I'll be fine there with my RAT's. But the string gauges are driving me nuts. I'm at 17-74 now and still get rattles with quite the action.. maybe I need a truss rod adjustment.

Any information will help and I just know this is the place to look as I've always gotten my questions sorted out by y'all!

Thanks!
pretty sure their custom fuzzrocious is the demon | rat combo.

so OCD RAT combo. Easy enough to pickup an OCD.

tuning is something ludicious like f# or something, i think.

doing some sluething:
ronripper wrote:Here is where most of my Devi love ended up...


My Ambient/Shoegaze board. Which the middle section is also used as the guitarist in Bongripper's main pedal board.

Image

Goes a little like this...

Ibanez Dual Loop Selector (A/B/C switch...guitar/bass/synth) > EHX Stereo Clone Theory (set to vibrato) > E13 Yin Yang Boost > Tuner > E13 Beautiful Disaster > DE Dark Boost > MXR Carbon Copy > E13 JP Volume Cut > Zvex Lo-Fi Loop Junkie > Boomerang Phrase Sampler

in the loop of the Beautiful Disaster...

Loop > DE ShoeGazer > MXR Phase 90 > Catalinbread Semaphore Tremolo > Boss Stereo Volume Pedal > Pigronix Echolution (working on getting some more expression pedals or peep's for Delay Time and Feedback control) > Boss DD-6 (always on reverse) > Digitech XP-400 Reverberator > Loop


But yeah from the Tuner to the Lo-Fi is what is used regularly in Bongripper. All the other stuff I add in for when I do my solo stuff.
CoolName wrote:
ronripper wrote:The bass setup....

Image


The guitar setup....

Image


Doom
i dont even wanna be in the same state when all this amazing shit is being played.
Sweet dude!
I actually have that GH100S being shipped to me right now!
Anybody got any experience with that? I got a really good deal on it seeing how it went for like 650ish on Reverb and I got it for 400ish, still questioning it until I read in some review "Iommi knew what he was doing when he designed this" and I didnt even bother looking up if he actual did or not, it was the amp I needed :lol:

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:37 pm
by odontophobia
i feel like a lot of the new laney stuff(aka, not AOR or vintage) basically got shit on but i feel like a lot of people were otherwise super into their newer laney amps.
for some reason i thought somebody on ilf had one for awhile. maybe.

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:06 pm
by Iommic Pope
odontophobia wrote:admittedly, some of that shit is from 2013 so I'm sure a ton has changed.

also, digging through some of the old "show your amp" has some seriously dope shit in there.
old shit from conky, ancientastronaut, ron ripper, and sam adams.
some glorious shit.
Halcyon days.

Newer Laney stuff is fine.
People like to crap on anything new.
Keeping in mind the AOR was hated when it came out because it was "a budget 800" (as were Sovteks).
And now what does everyone want because they heard it was on that Sleep record (that sounded terrible but whatever)?
Corksniffery is nothing new.

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:37 pm
by D.o.S.
^^^

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:38 am
by larssonn
That's comforting! I read that this GH100S was hella loud and I've come to terms that when it comes to doom, loudness is the biggest importance.
I shot a message to Ron on IG and he gave me a great answer on how around .080 is necessary and even with a good intonation of the bridge as well as a truss rod adjustment it'll never be like E to E, but with loud enough amps and high enough gain it works! And my thought was.... Not getting that E to E clean clarity or whatever... is that necessarily a bad thing? Cause I want it to be different, dark and full of feels. The downside to wanting this type of sound though is when you get a sweet tooth for a amp, pedal or guitar and have to look up YouTube reviews which is pointless because it's always 10-46 EADGBE so you don't get helped at all haha, and it seems like people try to display how long it can ring etc. it's always like "this is what it sounds like if you play country blues licks, ok thanks for watching"

Anyways, .017-.080 is what I'm gonna try out, but I have to find a tech with an open mind because the two I've asked so far kinda just go "you shouldn't do this", "you should play bass", "this is just not possible cause it'll sound nothing like Steve Vai, and that's what you wanna sound like, trust me, I was in a band once" haha! I even went into a shop asking for HEAVY gauge strings and the clerk proudly threw up like .013-.068 saying "you want nightmare??"

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:39 am
by larssonn
That's comforting! I read that this GH100S was hella loud and I've come to terms that when it comes to doom, loudness is the biggest importance.
I shot a message to Ron on IG and he gave me a great answer on how around .080 is necessary and even with a good intonation of the bridge as well as a truss rod adjustment it'll never be like E to E, but with loud enough amps and high enough gain it works! And my thought was.... Not getting that E to E clean clarity or whatever... is that necessarily a bad thing? Cause I want it to be different, dark and full of feels. The downside to wanting this type of sound though is when you get a sweet tooth for a amp, pedal or guitar and have to look up YouTube reviews which is pointless because it's always 10-46 EADGBE so you don't get helped at all haha, and it seems like people try to display how long it can ring etc. it's always like "this is what it sounds like if you play country blues licks, ok thanks for watching"

Anyways, .017-.080 is what I'm gonna try out, but I have to find a tech with an open mind because the two I've asked so far kinda just go "you shouldn't do this", "you should play bass", "this is just not possible cause it'll sound nothing like Steve Vai, and that's what you wanna sound like, trust me, I was in a band once" haha! I even went into a shop asking for HEAVY gauge strings and the clerk proudly threw up like .013-.068 saying "you want nightmare??"

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:44 am
by odontophobia
Yeah, i suspect it won't be easy finding a tech who is ready to just JUMP at the opportunity to do some wild shit but you are the customer. If they're unwilling to do it don't purchase anything there and find some place that will. You can take your business elsewhere if they're being dickheads. If the tech is simply in a, "i'm not sure that it's possible" or "that's not something i'm comfortable with" then I guess the story is a little different but it can't be that out of the ordinary.

time to learn your own setups, eh?

Re: The magical sound of bongripper

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:48 pm
by ThurberMingus
I feel so stupid when I'm in a guitar shop shooting the shit and someone says "Well if it's good enough for Joe Bonamossa!" just instantly ruins it for me.

Fortunately my main tech guy is cool as hell. He plays blues and jazz and country shit, but he plays insanely well and he loves Bjork and Radiohead so I can actually talk to him about my tonal desires. I'm gonna have him restring my Tele VI with bari strings and tune it to A-A so I too can rip bongs.