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Looking to get more industrial sounds in my setup
Hard chunk destruction
I hear nin used zoom boxes back in the day.
Just kind of curious what else is out there now. I have a modded blue box, maybe a Geiger counter?

Ezhi&Aka - The Cycle is only $150 shipped. Sounds pretty freaking lofi and industrial to me

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPRvxR00SvI[/youtube]

Not cheap, but the Frazz Dazzler on high gain mode does an awesome gated saturated sound that I like for industrial stuff. Straight into the mixer with a chorus on and it sounds like a brutal monophonic synth as well.

If we're talking guitar:

3pdt Fuzz Machine
Hotone Krush (mostly if cascaded into or used to filter other gain sources)
Danelectro Fab Tone and French Toast
Noisereap Asstone
Ibanez FZ7, Smashbox, and SB7 (the last of which screams when fed into other gain)
DOD FX86 and FX69
DigiTech Bass Synth Wah (also requires another gain source for optimal effect)

The problem is that industrial was more of a movement, and never really had a cohesive sound. Throbbing Gristle didn't sound like Neubauten didn't sound like Coil didn't sound like Skinny Puppy. Every band had different set-ups and different techniques. I think the common theme was that they used whatever was cheap, or built obscure circuits themselves, and learned how to exploit their limited functionality through bending, creative patching, feedback loops, etc. Figure out how to throttle whatever demon squeals you can from whatever gear is cheapest at the pawn shop. That's the industrial ethos right there.

Which instrument(s) do you plan on running into the pedals?

A feedback loop, a power-starve, and a ring-mod are all cheap to buy, and even cheaper and easy to build. A lot of synthesizers can double as effects processors. If you have one, run other things through the input. Get a cheap amp and fuck the cone up with a screwdriver. In general, use things in ways they were not intended to be used.

Guitar:
Old zoom multi fx > DAW > Decapitator/Camel Crusher > Profit

Bonus:
Get an old rack unit for gated reverb and other joys.

A NIN staple was supposedly Way Huge Swollen Pickle + ZVex Machine (DIY clones exist)
A modded BOSS DS-1, like the JHS Synth Drive can do some crazy shit.
A Gristleizer clone will get you that Throbbing Gristle sound.
Crowther Prunes & Custard is pretty unique.
SP used a lot of slapback delay, FLA used tape
Copilot FX is a great place to look, specifically the Orbit. The Trek and Mantis also sound pretty wild.
Any delay that self-oscillates is probably your friend.

I wasn't too impressed with the Geiger Counter 'civilian' version when I had it (could have been my fault).

There's an Ezhi&Aka "The Signature" pedal in the Buy/Sell/Trade forum, which is pretty cool. You should check that out. (Noisy distortion pedal)

kaeth wrote:The problem is that industrial was more of a movement, and never really had a cohesive sound. Throbbing Gristle didn't sound like Neubauten didn't sound like Coil didn't sound like Skinny Puppy. Every band had different set-ups and different techniques. I think the common theme was that they used whatever was cheap, or built obscure circuits themselves, and learned how to exploit their limited functionality through bending, creative patching, feedback loops, etc. Figure out how to throttle whatever demon squeals you can from whatever gear is cheapest at the pawn shop. That's the industrial ethos right there.

Which instrument(s) do you plan on running into the pedals?

A feedback loop, a power-starve, and a ring-mod are all cheap to buy, and even cheaper and easy to build. A lot of synthesizers can double as effects processors. If you have one, run other things through the input. Get a cheap amp and fuck the cone up with a screwdriver. In general, use things in ways they were not intended to be used.

10/10 and last sentence in particular is great.

^3rded.
Also I've been a broken record lately, but Meatbox. I'm getting a Meatbox reissue end of this month, yup.

Kaeth is right on.

It even depends on what era of each band.

Some kind of loop or creative delaying can get some cabaret Voltaire (early and synth pop stuff and even the later dance stuff). It's all about the arrangement with samples and rhythmic loops combined with live instruments (lots of different ones).

I'm going to say DSD-2 with creative triggering. Or a boss RSD-10 for the big brother.

KMFDM stuff, ministry stuff (post twitch)...just heavy metal man...debatable if industrial though haha. Hyper metal, heavy metal, mt-2, death metal...fill space not melodies. Half cocked wah or some kind of stationary pitch bend for overtones...or just simulated distorted guitar on synth. More about the rhythmic style than the actual sound. Running through a synth or filter may help too (as previously mentioned). Compression maybe (though a filter or the high gain pedals will probably get you there fine).

RMA stuff too. Dirty Doper would be a good all around distortion device.

Goroth's suggestion is solid too.

NIN staple was the ART SGE/SGX - a factory patch, long before the album, "Downward Spiral" is all over that era's stuff.

As well as the nasty digital distortion.

Bro Zoom Ultra Fuzz. Shit is insanely awesome.

Also for NIN type sounds Trent used a Depth Charge (got this confirmed), Swollen Pickle (v 1), but also a metric fuck ton of other shit. If you can think of it, he's most likely used it. LOL!

I use a Darkglass Duality personally for the squashed industrial tone and love it to death. One can be had for a good price used. I'm a bass player though.......so it really depends on what you play.

kaeth wrote:ZVe>< Machine (DIY clones exist)

I definitely do NOT have two of these circuits, and even if I did I would definitely NEVER think of letting the one made by Upstate Analog go in the b/s/t really soon