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I'm looking for a self-oscillating fuzz, and right now, I think it's between the Fuzzhugger Sonic Shroom and the Devi Ever Rocket (though I'm open to other suggestions). How would you compare them?

It seems to me that a selling point of the Shroom is that the oscillation is supposed to be "under your playing" so that it's mostly audible when you're not playing, rather than muddying up the notes. Does the Rocket do this as well?

Though it seems like the Shroom's oscillation is more controllable, from the demos I've heard, the Rocket's base fuzz tones sound a bit more "modern" and angry compared to the Fuzzhugger's. However, it's hard to judge the character of tones from demo videos, because so many variables outside of the pedals affect how you hear them (the rest of the demoer's rig, how the amp is mic'd, the demoers playing style, etc).

The Rocket does come with that tremolo switch, and while it seems cool, it's not a total deal-breaker for me. The Shroom is also a bit cheaper.

Also, the Truly Beautiful Disaster seems a tad out of my price range, but I'm just curious how you would compare it to the others just in case.

Thanks.

I suppose the TakeFlightPedals Goose has joined the candidates for my self-oscillating fuzz.

Well, the Rocket doesn't really self-oscillate as much as it makes noise that mangles your signal. Would definitely recommend the Shroom instead (based on my preferences, obviously). The Truly Beautiful Disaster was a bit underwhelming for me, especially at the price.

Don't think you'll find a Goose easily, they aren't made anymore, and do not pop up that often. Maybe look into LAL?

What exactly are you looking for in an oscillating fuzz? Harsh noise, drones, videogame sounds, synthlike toanz?

Here's a playlist of me demoing various osc. fuzzes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... W4wDgJqmAe

The Fuzz-e Cat by Paradox is another good one that doesn't break the bank. Or you could pick up my MASF Epilepsy from the BST, and destroy everything (shameless self-promotion ).

Shroom rules. It does everything.

Eivind August wrote: Or you could pick up my MASF Epilepsy from the BST, and destroy everything (shameless self-promotion ).

OR my Mellotone Wolf Computer

Eivind August wrote:Well, the Rocket doesn't really self-oscillate as much as it makes noise that mangles your signal. Would definitely recommend the Shroom instead (based on my preferences, obviously). The Truly Beautiful Disaster was a bit underwhelming for me, especially at the price.

Don't think you'll find a Goose easily, they aren't made anymore, and do not pop up that often. Maybe look into LAL?

What exactly are you looking for in an oscillating fuzz? Harsh noise, drones, videogame sounds, synthlike toanz?

Here's a playlist of me demoing various osc. fuzzes: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... W4wDgJqmAe

Huh, I saw some webpage that made it look like the Goose was in stock, but it just linked me to their 404'd site. So I guess that's out of the running.

I don't really know what I'm looking for in self-oscillation. This is my first foray into it. I guess something capable of crazy sounds, but not something so noisy that the playing will usually be inaudible behind a wall of white noise. Weird arpeggiation-type effects are cool. Also, that thing where the oscillation drops in pitch a few tones. I guess I don't have a lot of specifics in mind, because I'll be experimenting with and learning for the first time what oscillators can do when I get one.

I liked a lot of the demos in your playlist (haven't even watched all of them, and I feel like I've spent all day listening to them and Googling the pedals!), such as the Mellowtone Wolf Computer, Catalinbread Antichthon, various Fuzzhuggers, Fuzz-E Cat, and Lastgasp Oscillo. Trying to keep to ones where I've seen offers in my price range (less than 300 including shipping when converted to CAD... hell, less than 200 is ideal, but that's hard to get with boutiques with weird features). Also looking at good price-to-control ratios.

I notice that you also say that the tone isn't the best on the TBD in your demo video. It's hard for me to hear the exact nuances of the tone from my computer and headphones. What about it is lacking? The regular price of it is something I'd consider out of my range, but I included it because I found a lower-than-normal offer somewhere and wasn't sure if I should get it, or pick something else.

goroth wrote:Shroom rules. It does everything.

After exposing myself to a bunch of oscillators in August's videos, I almost feel like I'll eventually end up getting at least two oscillating fuzzes. It seems a lot of them have that more zippy Fuzz Face sound that gets all video-gamey when you play with the weird controls they add on, while the Shroom is more in that wooly Muff territory. Kind of makes me want to get both a Shroom and one of those other "zippy" (that's my word for them I guess) ones. I guess that's how the G.A.S. goes. You think you'll just take a coin out of the take-a-penny-leave-a-penny, but you end up just dumping the entire thing in your coat when nobody's looking and then exiting the store. Actually, that's a horrible analogy, because it ends with the person having more money in their pocket, rather than less.

Talk to Tom @ Fuzzhugger. You can always order something custom if he's game.

Resale on the Fuzzhugger stuff is much higher, it doesn't come with the baggage of the alternative (as much as I love my old pedals from the name I shall not mention).

Yeah, I guess the Ever drama did kind of poison the name, but on the other hand, Dwarfcraft is selling her old pedals now. In light of some of the info in this thread, The Rocket isn't really on my "maybe" list anymore, but I saw a used TBD for a not bad price (it's an Ooh La La-built one, I don't know how that compares to the modern ones).

I've never ordered a custom pedal before. I don't even think I know enough about what I'm looking for to know what to ask Tom to build.

The older stuff is very variable in that if you find one you love, *NEVER* sell it because the next one you get will not sound like it.

And there's a first time for everything, never know until you do!

Shroom and Velcrobot 2 in one. 4 stomps. 1590DD enclosure. 1 to activate shroom, 1 for osc. 1 to activate velcrobot, 1 to activate the bot part of the circuit. You got your regular fuzz, your wooly oscillations, dolphins, octaves etc, you've got a cranking velcro fuzz that sustains, and then you've got the filtered zippy fun.

http://fuzzhugger.com/contact.html

goroth wrote:Shroom and Velcrobot 2 in one. 4 stomps. 1590DD enclosure. 1 to activate shroom, 1 for osc. 1 to activate velcrobot, 1 to activate the bot part of the circuit. You got your regular fuzz, your wooly oscillations, dolphins, octaves etc, you've got a cranking velcro fuzz that sustains, and then you've got the filtered zippy fun.

http://fuzzhugger.com/contact.html

It will be huge, but it will be amazing. I second this motion, having had each of the individual pedals, all in one box would be great.

Tom is the only guy I've ever ordered a custom one off from, and he's fantastic to work with. And, being still summer, I imagine turnaround will be super fast. (I ordered around Christmas, and even then he was really fast.)

I have a custom 2 in one Doom Bloom and Sun Eater from Tom, and while it doesn't oscillate, I can attest to how much of a pleasure It is to deal with him, and how immaculate the build quality is.
I have owned an Arc Flash DLX, a Greatest Wall, and an Ab-synth Dream, and his oscillations aren't like your standard squeak-squelch fare. They're a little more synthy and sit under your playing, adding in octave down burps and obese helicopter motor boating.
Very easy to play along with, and the transition from your note to the oscillation isn't as abrupt, which aides in droning.

However, if you want your oscillations a little more "traditional" , I can't recommend the Last Gasp Oscillo 88 enough!
For me, and many here, it's the be all, end all, of oscillating madness.

The Fuzzhugger oscillations being a bit more tamable and harmonious with the playing does sound cool, and I think it's one of the things that's set me on the Shroom. On the other hand, I also like the idea of having something insane, like the TBD.

I'm a bit tempted by the Velcobot + Shroom idea. At the same time, that Wolf Computer seems really out-there, and I'm having trouble deciding between it and the Velcobot. From the demos I listened to, it sounds like the Velcobot can get pretty close to the Wolf Computer, though there is still something about that Wolf Computer.

I feel like I'm paralyzed by all the options. I did email Tom to ask him for an estimate on that Shroom/Velcrobot, though.

Velcrobot doesn't really oscillate. Wolf computer doesn't get that crazy telephone füzz thing. Velcrobot does Velcro füzz but with sustain. Or not if you want. But that's kinda unique, the Velcro with sustain. I think the WC can do batshit stuff better. It's everything the füzz factory wants to be but more versatile and with more repeatable results, but still bringing the crazy.