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I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:25 pm
by Jwar
So guys. I feel like such a whore right now. I have always had some phase and I've found myself phaser-less. The only phaser I have is the sucky crap on the Eventide H9. Which is OK, but it's not what I want.

I want a lush, super lush, slow phaser. I love ones with the option of multiple stages or waves. ALWAYS wanted a Jet Phaser, but I'd almost prefer a clone.

I'd prefer analog over digital. I can tell with phasers more than anything. So that's why.

I'm in a toss up between several though.

Moogerfooger 12 stage
Subdecay Quantum DLX if I can even find one
Chase Bliss Wombtone 1 or 2
Solidgold FX Apollo
Or buy another Toneczar Halophase

I'm open to opinions though? I want something that's funky, holds lows well, can do strange shit, but do standard stuff as well.

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:46 pm
by goroth
Empress!

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:56 pm
by DRodriguez
goroth wrote:Empress!
This is a good one.

The Chase bliss Wombtone is pretty great too.

I can't remember the circuit used, but if dminner cares to comment, the one I got from him is lush as hell and can get real slow (and it was biphase too)

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:02 pm
by Tristan
I have the Empress, mainly because the random mode on there is the best I've heard so far, but I don't like it for deep phasing so I don't think it will hold up on bass.
For bass I'd either go for a Faye Sing B or a Wombtone MKII.

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:17 pm
by resincum
what about the infinitphase? ;) goes slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww



and that s/h mod.. why don't any other phasers have that? it's crazy!!

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:36 pm
by space6oy
wombtone or sibling.
i have the mooger too but wouldn't use it on bass.

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:09 pm
by echorec
I own (2) Moogs, a Wombtone, and the Subdecay. I’d recommend the Moog for slow stuff, but I’m primarily a synth user and slow-developing sweeps for 70s string synths is what I key in on. It’s great for what it does, but it’s not particularly quirky or strange in scope.

I’ve seen a couple Quantums recently around $250, but it’s not nearly as intuitive as other phasers. I would never part with mine, but I also couldn’t give you a ringing endorsement for bass guitar.

I’ve yet to find a good slow setting for the Wombtone. It’s insanely chewy and exotic, especially with the DIP switches, but I wouldn’t recommend it to someone as their only phaser. It’s not a utility pedal to me.

The SolidGold Apollo II might be your best option, as I think it should cover slow stuff, interesting rhythms, and a decent bit of the weirdness you’d find in a deluxe Quasar.

Another phaser that’s overlooked is the VFE Tractor Beam. It has range, but it’s also incredibly straightforward.

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:44 pm
by chaseblissaudio
echorec wrote:I own (2) Moogs, a Wombtone, and the Subdecay. I’d recommend the Moog for slow stuff, but I’m primarily a synth user and slow-developing sweeps for 70s string synths is what I key in on. It’s great for what it does, but it’s not particularly quirky or strange in scope.

I’ve seen a couple Quantums recently around $250, but it’s not nearly as intuitive as other phasers. I would never part with mine, but I also couldn’t give you a ringing endorsement for bass guitar.

I’ve yet to find a good slow setting for the Wombtone. It’s insanely chewy and exotic, especially with the DIP switches, but I wouldn’t recommend it to someone as their only phaser. It’s not a utility pedal to me.

The SolidGold Apollo II might be your best option, as I think it should cover slow stuff, interesting rhythms, and a decent bit of the weirdness you’d find in a deluxe Quasar.

Another phaser that’s overlooked is the VFE Tractor Beam. It has range, but it’s also incredibly straightforward.
What version of Wombtone do you have, just curious...

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:26 pm
by Iommic Pope
Dunwich Nick just made an optical four stage.
If anyone wants to help me peer pressure him into making an optical and selectable 6/12 stage one, I will lead that charge.

Jwar: Pi Phase?

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:58 pm
by friendship
I'd rather have 2/4/6 stage or even just 2/4 is that wrong ethically

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:06 pm
by echorec
chaseblissaudio wrote:
echorec wrote:I’ve yet to find a good slow setting for the Wombtone. It’s insanely chewy and exotic, especially with the DIP switches, but I wouldn’t recommend it to someone as their only phaser. It’s not a utility pedal to me.
What version of Wombtone do you have, just curious...
Man, you're always stalking me. If it's not here, it's Instagram, or YouTube, what's that about? :hello:

It's not that the Wombtone can't do slow, but in terms of its own unique properties, I feel it's stronger and more dynamic in other areas. In terms of coloration and texture, I feel that's a poor way to apply it. When I say that I don't see it as a utility pedal, what I mean is that I see the Wombtone like a Bugatti. It's a high-performance, sophisticated, and exotic piece of engineering. ---BUT you don't buy a Bugatti to take your kids to school, or to dash by the grocery store for milk and bread. A pedal like the Empress Phaser is like a sports utility vehicle. You can basically do any routine task with it. You can go on a date, grab the kids after soccer practice, go to the office, go by the factory...BUT you don't buy a rugged SUV to drive around Monaco.

To me using the Wombtone for routine slow sweeps is like buying a luxury sports car, when you live in a lazy town where all the roads are 30 MPH straightaways. Why would I buy a $200K automobile to drive 30 mph on a road without curves? To me the Wombtone is something you want to show off, not something you want to bury in the mix by rolling back the pots to 11:00 and setting the rate to minimum. So perhaps it's unfair to say it's not a utility pedal, as technically speaking it can be driven at slower speeds----however once someone's been exposed to all of the bubbly hiccups and trem-phase rhythms inside, that other phasers can't touch, you're losing so much of its essence by hiding all of that extra color and movement, in order to get a more straightforward down-tempo sweep. Thankfully my garage has about 20 phasers inside, so I don't have to choose one over another.

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:34 pm
by Iommic Pope
friendship wrote:I'd rather have 2/4/6 stage or even just 2/4 is that wrong ethically
Yes.


Moar stages is best stages.

Nah, 2 and 4 are probably better for slow sweeps, but you do get those extra little warbles on 6+ which is nice.
6 stage phasers don't shine until you get into higher speeds, but it's so worth it when you get there.

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:01 pm
by Jwar
Well I have a Wombtone MK 1 coming now thanks to my man Joel! :) BUT! I need more later! I love phasers. They make me so happy. SOOOOOOOOOO happy. :) I like big swooshes.

I'm going to check out the Empress for sure. I had one Empress pedal and it was amazing.

The Infinite Phase was amazing. Sigh. Regret. LOL

Who makes the Pi-Phase?

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:07 pm
by echorec
jwar wrote:The Infinite Phase was amazing. Sigh. Regret. LOL

Who makes the Pi-Phase?
Prophecy Mike in Australia is also making the Pi-Phase.

https://reverb.com/item/701604-prophecy ... se-shifter

http://prophecysound.com/products/piphase

Re: I can't believe this...I need a phaser

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:23 pm
by Jwar
echorec wrote:
jwar wrote:The Infinite Phase was amazing. Sigh. Regret. LOL

Who makes the Pi-Phase?
Prophecy Mike in Australia is also making the Pi-Phase.

https://reverb.com/item/701604-prophecy ... se-shifter

http://prophecysound.com/products/piphase
I'm getting one of these as soon as possible. Those sounds!! Fuck!