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Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:54 pm
by sylnau
What would you use to sound like this?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GV9XUZHHKY[/youtube]
I tried the Penny Pedals Radio Deluxe... and it's not working for me.
Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:05 pm
by Chankgeez

As I just PM'd you, I think he's playing an acoustic there. Not sure you can do that with an electric. Unless you're using an "acoustic simulator".
Fairly heavy filtering/EQing. Could possibly actually be a filter or maybe just the choice of microphone they used in recording.
Either way, there's a lot of attack to his tone there.
Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:08 pm
by Chankgeez
OK, so, Syl tells me this's from
Silent Movies.
The liner notes state: "This is a program of solo guitar music, performed with no overdubs or accompaniment…"
I'm thinkin' it's just the recording method.

Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:09 pm
by DRodriguez
I'd start with some broad settings and then tweak until it fits what you want. Some hard compression with a high threshold so that it gets crunchy when you get loud, some light crunchy overdrive maybe. Very high sharp highpass, a sharp lowpass, and a generous boost around 2k (where radios were optimized for vocal clarity).
Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:10 pm
by sylnau
But we need a pedulz that do this.

Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:12 pm
by sylnau
DRodriguez wrote:I'd start with some broad settings and then tweak until it fits what you want. Some hard compression with a high threshold so that it gets crunchy when you get loud, some light crunchy overdrive maybe. Very high sharp highpass, a sharp lowpass, and a genourous boost around 2k (where radio's were optimised for vocal clarity).
I hate compressor... I feel limited when I play through a comp.
Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:14 pm
by Chankgeez
Yeah, he's probably using an amp a little bit. Not very loud, but a lot of that sound is the acoustic-ness.
Why not use a plug-in compressor to treat it, Syl, after you've recorded it?
Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:27 pm
by DRodriguez
Chankgeez wrote:Yeah, he's probably using an amp a little bit. Not very loud, but a lot of that sound is the acoustic-ness.
Why not use a plug-in compressor to treat it, Syl, after you've recorded it?
This, A more studio style compressor with a high threshold at the end of a chain can be set to not affect your signal except your hardest peaks. It'll just dirty your signal up when you get loud, not kill your dynamics
Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:44 pm
by sylnau
DRodriguez wrote:Chankgeez wrote:Yeah, he's probably using an amp a little bit. Not very loud, but a lot of that sound is the acoustic-ness.
Why not use a plug-in compressor to treat it, Syl, after you've recorded it?
This, A more studio style compressor with a high threshold at the end of a chain can be set to not affect your signal except your hardest peaks. It'll just dirty your signal up when you get loud, not kill your dynamics
Which pedal would be near this studio effect?
Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:53 pm
by Inconuucl
Contact mic/piezo pickup if you want to do this on your electric.

Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:03 pm
by DRodriguez
Not sure, since I mainly use software compressors. But look for something with way too many knobs ratio, threshold, attack, and release. Knee if you can find it. For the radio effect, I'd use a high ratio, medium attack, and faster release. Set the threshold to the highest so that it is essentially doing 0 compression. Play hard, and slowly lower the threshold until you hear it. And then raise it up a bit from that point.
If you hate the compression sound, maybe look for one with a mix knob. So that you can still get the effect mildly, but have your playing dynamics still pop through.
A VCA style compressor would be the most transparent feeling kind. Optical tend to be the smoothest.
They're both on the expensive side, but if I ever bought a compressor pedal it would be the Empress Compressor or the Keeley Electronics Compressor Pro.
Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:54 pm
by coupleonapkins
I know it's not a pedal, but any of the mini/pocket-sized amps (Marshall, Fender, Orange, etc., set to the normal/clean channel) can do a decent facsimile thereof for less than $40. Just roll the tone knob on one of those (or via your guitar), turn up the volume to taste/compress & there you go! Most of them also have an EXT OUT/Headphone jack, but the crappiness/compression/shaking of the small plastic enclosure might not translate as well direct, maybe (I never bothered to check, sorry!). That video sounds a hell of a lot just like it, albeit w/ room tone/mic placement, but my ears are not yours

Re: Radio
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:37 pm
by sylnau
coupleonapkins wrote:I know it's not a pedal, but any of the mini/pocket-sized amps (Marshall, Fender, Orange, etc., set to the normal/clean channel) can do a decent facsimile thereof for less than $40. Just roll the tone knob on one of those (or via your guitar), turn up the volume to taste/compress & there you go! Most of them also have an EXT OUT/Headphone jack, but the crappiness/compression/shaking of the small plastic enclosure might not translate as well direct, maybe (I never bothered to check, sorry!). That video sounds a hell of a lot just like it, albeit w/ room tone/mic placement, but my ears are not yours

Never tried one, but that might be possible.

Re: Radio
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:09 am
by rfurtkamp
This sounds all like production versus something you get with a pedal - I'd go for a shitty old built-in boom box cassette recorder for this sort of sound pretty quick, in close proximity to whatever amp I was recording to a point where it was going well into the red for both the mic and the tape.
Re: Radio
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:27 pm
by echorec
You could invest in a wire recorder or lo-fi radio with an external input. The intro to "Wish You Were Here" was supposedly recorded with help from Gilmour's car radio.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibgSASnJVc4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlsREA8ZgH8[/youtube]