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Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:14 am
by DarkAxel
Aside from being by far one of my favourite Melvins releases, A Senile Animal also sports some serious tonez, like this bass fuzz thing. It's in numerous songs, but best heard in History of Bad Men

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oolwsWexSzQ[/youtube]

it can't just be a muff, right? :idk:

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:39 am
by tremolo3
Boss ODB3 maybe?
Yes, it's a fuzz pedal.

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:02 am
by Pepe
ramonovski wrote:Boss ODB3 maybe?
In that case it has been sent through an additional EQ and heavy compression before the dirt pedal. Personally I doubt that we hear the ODB-3 in this recording. The ODB-3 is an overdrive with a more dynamic sound.

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:06 am
by Pete
Big Business is credited as using the MXR Bass Fuzz Deluxe on their website, so that's a good bet.

http://www.jimdunlop.com/product/mxr-bass-fuzz-deluxe

Great song and album. Long live the Melvins.

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:52 am
by Dark Barn
Man I gotta get into the Melvins late catalog! Loved this song hearing it right now. The only thing that bugs me about late Melvins is it's not as good as early Melvins, but I gotta let go of that cuz it's still better than almost everything.

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:00 am
by Iommic Pope
Dude, this new Melvins wave is fucking rad.
That record rules.
That song is prob my fave off it as well.

Sorry I can't help with the tonez.
I'm all about the feelz.

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:35 am
by mulekicker
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Jared uses a malekko b:assmaster or the og maestro brassmaster. I think I've seen him with the malekko with Big Business.

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:59 am
by D.o.S.
Well, it's definitely not a big muff.

My vote is for POG + ODB3, actually.

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:46 am
by Hypnodrone
Sounds quite a lot like a Brassmaster. Very grainy and "dry" sound. But it has obviously been processed a million times before it went on youtube.
I think it sounds kinda similar to the fuzzdog clone I built for my bass rig: https://youtu.be/2KZGEYiFs9A?t=71

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:31 pm
by chutneyfarmer
Going off previous photos of Jared's pedalboard I's say it could easily be the BrassMaster with a little POG octave in there too for thickness.

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:54 pm
by HeavyXIII
Pepe wrote:
ramonovski wrote:Boss ODB3 maybe?
In that case it has been sent through an additional EQ and heavy compression before the dirt pedal. Personally I doubt that we hear the ODB-3 in this recording. The ODB-3 is an overdrive with a more dynamic sound.
Personally I thought the ODB3 sounded nothing like an overdrive with guitar. I found it grindy and metallic. I had a muff around the same time and found they shared a mid scoop, but the Boss had a much tighter bottom end. My bassist was only ever able to get that H (Tool) bass sound with it, so I don't know much on that end.

What gets me about the mix on some of this album is how much more of the bass I catch. With Buzzo's vocals, I barely hear the guitar over the bass sometimes.

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:41 pm
by Pete
On some Big Business lineup recordings it definitely seems Buzz is using a lighter distortion, with the bass fuzz/distortion standing out more.

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:26 pm
by daseb
mulekicker wrote:I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Jared uses a malekko b:assmaster or the og maestro brassmaster. I think I've seen him with the malekko with Big Business.

this. That pedal was the sound of Karp at least.

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:40 am
by DarkAxel
Pete wrote:On some Big Business lineup recordings it definitely seems Buzz is using a lighter distortion, with the bass fuzz/distortion standing out more.
absolutely true. Also seems like the bass is getting more "important". But that might be the evolution of mixing in general, too

Re: Don't want to be that guy, but... what fuzz is this?

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 6:22 am
by Iommic Pope
DarkAxel wrote:
Pete wrote:On some Big Business lineup recordings it definitely seems Buzz is using a lighter distortion, with the bass fuzz/distortion standing out more.
absolutely true. Also seems like the bass is getting more "important". But that might be the evolution of mixing in general, too
If you want fuzzy bass you generally have to clean up the guit a little.
I would argue bass is important on every Melvins record and has not been neglected by any one of their plethora of bassists.