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I want to be able to plug in a guitar, using the OC-3 to split into two different dirt chains.
If I plug each of those dirt chains back into a stereo pedal, am I still able to hear each one seperately if the stereo pedal at the end of the board is being fed into two different amps?

if it is true stereo, yass (I figure every stereo pedal with 2 ins/outs is 'true', but I've ran into maybe 2 that bled. not worth mentioning tho)

shouldn't be a problem with a boss pedal

resincum wrote:if it is true stereo, yass (I figure every stereo pedal with 2 ins/outs is 'true', but I've ran into maybe 2 that bled. not worth mentioning tho)

shouldn't be a problem with a boss pedal

Thanks!
Was one of those bleeders a behringer, perchance? I may be using one at the end of the board...

So...this makes sense then? i.e. I want to hear the muff in ONLY the bass amp, tubescreamer in ONLY the guitar amp

Does it have to make sense?

Approved. I bet that'll sound sick, what amps will you been using?

I might have to rip off that signal chain, with a few tweaks.

UglyCasanova wrote:Does it have to make sense?

SENSE :surprise:

by "make sense", i mean: will i be able to send just one dirt chain to one amp, one to the other, and still split delays towards the end of the board?

frigid midget wrote:Approved. I bet that'll sound sick, what amps will you been using?

guitar amp

bass amp

i used to do a similar thing with a dd7. i used an actual ab/y to split the signal to two dirt chains and ran them both through the dd7 like you have that setup there. it's not actually true stereo, but it works. what happens in almost all of these stereo in/out compact digital delays is that they don't actually process the two chains separately. that would take twice as much processing power. your dry signal, at least in the dd7 and i imagine the tera echo works the same way, remains true stereo, however the pedal blends the two signals coming in together and processes it so that the delay repeats are actually a blended signal. it'll send them out as a ping pong or whatever stereo magic you want on there, but the sound of the repeats will be the same on either side. but the dry signal will still maintain stereo integrity. kind of weird but ultimately it didn't really bother me and still sounded pretty good. i wasn't going to go buy a timeline or a time factor or something just for that feature. i think those pedals actually do process the signals separately. so, you can do that and it'll mostly work, but you'll just have to listen to see if it bugs you.

Post some clips of this if you try it.

this should work as you think it will.

misterstomach wrote:i used to do a similar thing with a dd7. i used an actual ab/y to split the signal to two dirt chains and ran them both through the dd7 like you have that setup there. it's not actually true stereo, but it works. what happens in almost all of these stereo in/out compact digital delays is that they don't actually process the two chains separately. that would take twice as much processing power. your dry signal, at least in the dd7 and i imagine the tera echo works the same way, remains true stereo, however the pedal blends the two signals coming in together and processes it so that the delay repeats are actually a blended signal. it'll send them out as a ping pong or whatever stereo magic you want on there, but the sound of the repeats will be the same on either side. but the dry signal will still maintain stereo integrity. kind of weird but ultimately it didn't really bother me and still sounded pretty good. i wasn't going to go buy a timeline or a time factor or something just for that feature. i think those pedals actually do process the signals separately. so, you can do that and it'll mostly work, but you'll just have to listen to see if it bugs you.

damn. i hope this wouldn't be the case. also not getting a strymon or eventide just for this. thanks for the thorough response. i did really want the tera echo or whatever to carry each line seperately.

misterstomach wrote: but the dry signal will still maintain stereo integrity.

and what do you mean by this?

I'm pretty sure he's saying you'll hear the dry signal on both chains. Unless the OC3 has a direct out that you're using to split?

Man, that dirt split gives me some fun notions to play with with my own stuff. I like it. Hit that and report back.

alexsga wrote:

misterstomach wrote: but the dry signal will still maintain stereo integrity.

and what do you mean by this?

it blends the incoming signals in order to create the repeats so that it's only using the power necessary to process one signal, instead of two. it feeds those same repeats to each side. however, the dry signal isn't blended. so, if the pedal is off, you will have only muff on one side and only ts on the other. when you turn the pedal on, the only part of the signal that's blended is the delay repeats. so if you have a short number if repeats, say only two, when you hit a note, you will hear mostly (depending on your settings) your dry signal with it's stereo integrity, then you will hear the two fading repeats which are a blended signal. does that make sense? i think unless you have your delay line louder than the dry signal, it might not be a huge deal, or it might sound alright.

I probably wouldn't use a Tera Echo for this purpose.

As much as I love the thing, it's dynamic wacky and probably isn't going to pass everything like you want.