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I have an opportunity to get this in a trade, and I need a guitar amp. I am currently ampless.

I'm looking for a great clean sound, and built most of my tones with my pedalboard.

Anyone have experience with these?

Which one is it?

I was lusting after the Cougar 50 combo open box that were on musicians friend, but haven't sold my head so I didn't pull the trigger and they're sold out now! Lots of chatter on gear page, seem like they have good headroom from the feedback.

It's the 50 watt head.

The Cougars are not really Bad Cats, more of a musicians friend special with a Bad Cat logo on it. They were made overseas and Im nearly certain are not ptp wired.

That being said, most Bad Cats have great cleans and take pedals well, but fall into the ac30 edge-of-breakup camp.

Muff_Diver wrote:The Cougars are not really Bad Cats, more of a musicians friend special with a Bad Cat logo on it. They were made overseas and Im nearly certain are not ptp wired.

That being said, most Bad Cats have great cleans and take pedals well, but fall into the ac30 edge-of-breakup camp.

Yeah. All of those Cougar 50's had the name licensed through soon means and are all built in China.

so far, its a loud one IIRC.

The Cougar 50 was designed by the guy who designed the 5150 and is a more flexible take on that circuit with the mid boost on the gain channel. The clean channel is simply a 4-way voicing switch and volume.

Is there any reference you can use when you say "great clean tone"? Are you talking vintage Fender cleans? Vox cleans? Marshall JTM? etc..

I've tried the Bad Cat head and I liked it, but it wouldn't be my first choice for a pedal platform.

Ideally vintage Fender cleans, but I'm used to JTM style

Im always confused about why people fetishize fender clean for pedals. Most fender amps dont have a mid control and are so scooped that any dirt you put into them disappears in the mix. A Marshall Plexi type clean with stronger midrange always works much better for me.

I think they're talking about twin/deluxe/other reverbs. Which do have a mids control and have much in the way of clean headroom.
But yeah tweed style fender amps have never worked for me.

whoismarykelly wrote:Im always confused about why people fetishize fender clean for pedals. Most fender amps dont have a mid control and are so scooped that any dirt you put into them disappears in the mix. A Marshall Plexi type clean with stronger midrange always works much better for me.

Been using Marshalls for years. Mainly a JTM50 and a Verellen Skyhammer with a Marshall voice. Just want to switch it up for a minute.