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Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:37 pm
by Dandolin
First off, if you hate Da Blooze, get out now to preserve your sanity.

To the point--I heard this at a vinyl party this weekend, and was struck by the fuzz tone (skip to 6:00 for fuzz w/out all the backwards schtuff):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxOtF2XGWzU[/youtube]

Anyone got any ideas of what fuzz this might be? Germanium Fuzzrite? Jordan Bosstone with a dying battery? Calling all fuzzstorians. :hello: :thumb:

PS--is there a single "identify this fuzz" catch-all thread? Haven't seen one pop up, but if there is, I'll nuke this and re-post....

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:44 pm
by lordgalvar
It kinda sounds like a fuzzrite or a nu-fuzz (in the decay) to me. Probably some overdrive on top too or something.

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:47 pm
by Dandolin
lordgalvar wrote:It kinda sounds like a fuzzrite or a nu-fuzz (in the decay) to me. Probably some overdrive on top too or something.
Makes sense given the era (68) and location (down by the Bay)....

Rosac is Fuzzrite slight return, amirite?

The more I hear the proto fuzzies, the more I like 'em.

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:03 pm
by Chankgeez
Where's the blues? This sounds like blues rock to me.

Whatever you wanna call it, I'm really bad at playing this game.

The fuzz does sound great though. I like the panning too. :snax:

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:08 pm
by lordgalvar
Dandolin wrote:
lordgalvar wrote:It kinda sounds like a fuzzrite or a nu-fuzz (in the decay) to me. Probably some overdrive on top too or something.
Makes sense given the era (68) and location (down by the Bay)....

Rosac is Fuzzrite slight return, amirite?

The more I hear the proto fuzzies, the more I like 'em.
Sanner made the Rosac (I don't think very many were made) after working for Mosrite making Ge the Fuzzrite and then I think went back to mosrite for the silicon one?. I think they are pretty darn close, just maybe parts differing because of supplies. Sanner still makes the Nu-Fuzz for hallmark. It was a one off thing originally and then included in an amp then made into a pedal. Sanner worked for Gretch and Fender too at some point.

Mine has that kinda fuzzy almost discordant decay. I still think there is some overdrive/studio trickery though

edit: i got some stuff mixed up in my head. I was trying to rremember what he told me 10 years ago haha.

side note:
http://tonereport.com/reviews/catalinbread-fuzzrite - This still pisses me off. haha. What a lame review (I know it is advertising, but still it is lame).

If the circuit is huge, it isn't a fuzzrite. How can it be more authentic than the one the actual inventor makes still (and the modified version)? Take out the noise and treble, take out the fuzzrite. What's the dang point in calling it fuzzrite? I know they legit own the name, but, man, just leave the dang thing alone. eh, I'm going to shut up.

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:18 pm
by Dandolin
Chankgeez wrote:Where's the blues? This sounds like blues rock to me.

Whatever you wanna call it, I'm really bad at playing this game.

The fuzz does sound great though. I like the panning too. :snax:
No, no "Blues" whatsoever on this cut (fer sumpin' like dat check out Harv on a Charlie Musselwhite joint)--this is 100% Blooze (Blooz? Blüz?) from an Age before the time of reckoning whence SIr SRV re-invented "authenticity."

:lol:

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:44 pm
by Chankgeez
I think the better question'd be "Where did Sugarcane get those pants?"

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Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:47 pm
by HorseyBoy
Blooze or not, this is a great track. But I agree with Chank that this is always a hard game to play. Even by 1968, when this was recorded, there were a bunch of fuzz boxes this could be. Fuzzrite/Nu-fuzz is a good guess but it sounds a little too warm to be a Fuzzrite to my ears, although that could be added overdrive or the studio EQ. Something about it sounds like a germanium fuzz to me, maybe a I.V Tonebender or a Fuzzface. They were both around in 1966. :idk:

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:52 pm
by lordgalvar
I want to draw eyes and a jagged maw on that guitar and make it look like an English Bulldog (it already has cropped ears).

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:30 am
by Dandolin
I need to pull out a Fuzzrite type circuit and use it with something wearing PAFs--I'm always grabbing my low-output single coils when I use the garage fuzzes, which is cool'n'all, but I think a lot of what I'm hearing from ol' Harv is the ES-335 hitting the input....

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:48 am
by friendship
It sounds like a Bosstone to me, not splatty and trebly enough for a Fuzzrite, but I've never owned either and am basing this off of other recordings I've heard of both of those.

Really cool recording, btw.

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:17 am
by Dandolin
Yaz--the entire album was a very pleasant groove. I think you may be right, and I still think maybe his battery was running a lil low on juice, too. I'm a grab a Merkin and a Mahoneytone and my Danelectro starveomatic psu and run some PAF through it tonight. Sam Cooke will be rollin' in his grave...

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:36 pm
by Gone Fission
friendship wrote:It sounds like a Bosstone to me, not splatty and trebly enough for a Fuzzrite, but I've never owned either and am basing this off of other recordings I've heard of both of those.

Really cool recording, btw.
I'm thinking the same in bits of the tone. Some fuzz-face-y, some overdrive-y, some horn-like stuff like Trombetta gets from his Bosstone-based pedals.

Official ILF answer: get/build both.

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:47 pm
by Jero
I've been working on something you might like :evil:
Sounds similar

Re: Fuzz Archaeologists, Your Help

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:01 pm
by Dandolin
Ooh. Do tell.