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Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:30 am
by Wizard
Here are two of the most essential shoegaze albums ever in the world.
Lilys - In The Presence of Nothing.
Who's heard the album? Go.
Guitar - Sunkissed
Who's heard the album? Go.
That Lilys album is the closest i've ever heard a band come to recreating Loveless. nothing will ever TOP loveless, but fuck this record is amazing. Give yourself a little treat.
Get It Here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?dmwnoxy11n0Guitar is this german dude that does dreamy ambient shoegaze/electro stuff. The way he uses his guitar is pretty fucking amazing.
Get it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ohgynijywy2(Google blogsearch does some amazing things. People are always putting these little treasures up on their blogs, you can find like every album ever... not that i'm promoting illegal downloading or anyhting

)
Anyway,
I assume we all know who My Bloody Valentine was.
And Probably the Swirlies. I saw them in Philly in March, it was spot fucking on. *swoon* Plus THEY put all of their albums up for free download so you have NO EXCUSE. LEGENDARY.
http://rcarchives.com/swirlies/discography/index.htmI strongly suggest all of it. But if you haven't ever heard Blonder Tongue Audio Baton or What To Do About Them you're in for a treat
I hope you thoroughly enjoy all of these, let me know what you guys think!

Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:09 am
by smile_man
Wizard wrote:(Google blogsearch does some amazing things. People are always putting these little treasures up on their blogs, you can find like every album ever... not that i'm promoting illegal downloading or anyhting

)
I know exactly what you mean, it's pretty much eliminated the need for limewire, torrents, etc. I always recommend this to my friends but I don't know if they actually do it.
Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:19 am
by my bloody television
Wizard wrote:Anyway,
I assume we all know who My Bloody Valentine
is
can't forget Skywave, which is Oliver Akkerman of DBA and A Place to Bury Strangers fame's first band
Deerhunter's pretty great as well...I've heard people say they rip MBV off too much but I personally don't really hear it.
Souvlaki Space Station by Slowdive is up there with Loveless IMO.
I know Loveless is great and all, but let's not forget that the term "shoegaze" originated from a review of their previous album, Isn't Anything
Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:31 am
by Roseweave
Curve are pretty good. See "Cuckoo".
Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:17 pm
by Wizard
my bloody television wrote:Wizard wrote:Anyway,
I assume we all know who My Bloody Valentine
is
can't forget Skywave, which is Oliver Akkerman of DBA and A Place to Bury Strangers fame's first band
Deerhunter's pretty great as well...I've heard people say they rip MBV off too much but I personally don't really hear it.

I haven't ever gotten gotten into deerhunter. Lord knows i try, but it's more straightforward and less surreal to me.

i'll try harder?
Souvlaki Space Station by Slowdive is up there with Loveless IMO.
Yes, a truly amazing record. Just For A Day as well..
I know Loveless is great and all, but let's not forget that the term "shoegaze" originated from a review of their previous album, Isn't Anything
Of course, but i think Loveless really defined it. The only record i've ever heard sonically come anywhere near MBV's original masterpiece was that Lilys record above.
Roseweave wrote:Curve are pretty good. See "Cuckoo".

oh no you can't forget them. <-- sorry for the edit, half my post disappeared
Though they're a bit harder than most things that i would consider shoegaze.. but they've got the sonic assault part down really well!

Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:29 pm
by dragline
I'm going to be really controversial now and say that I think Loveless is overrated.
Blasphemy, I know. Sorry. I like it, but meh, I dunno.
Anyway, check out Swervedriver, they kick the shit out of everyone else from that scene, imo.
Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:35 pm
by androidpopjr
Has anybody listened to Ride - Nowhere?
It's a essential!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzLdgqSXNJs[/youtube]
smile_man wrote:Deerhunter's pretty great as well...I've heard people say they rip MBV off too much but I personally don't really hear it.

I don't think Deerhunter sound too much like MBV. It's The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart that really sound like MBV.
Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:56 pm
by Wizard
androidpopjr wrote:smile_man wrote:Deerhunter's pretty great as well...I've heard people say they rip MBV off too much but I personally don't really hear it.

I don't think Deerhunter sound too much like MBV. It's The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart that really sound like MBV.
Yeah but we all know that they're all derivative of Pavement
For that matter, you should probably read this article
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/pitchfork_gives_music_6_8And i love ride. alot.

Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:10 pm
by veteransdaypoppy
dragline wrote:I'm going to be really controversial now and say that I think Loveless is overrated.
Blasphemy, I know. Sorry. I like it, but meh, I dunno.
Anyway, check out Swervedriver, they kick the shit out of everyone else from that scene, imo.
I can understand why you would think that, and yes, Loveless has one badass reputation.
Personally I think it deserves its praise. Especially for a band that remains mostly under the radar. Loveless was a Velvet Underground and Nico kinda gig. You know, the type that inspires more music as well as being an enjoyable listen. And it didn't sell very well.
Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:34 pm
by Spiteface
my bloody television wrote:Wizard wrote:can't forget Skywave, which is Oliver Akkerman of DBA and A Place to Bury Strangers fame's first band
That reminds me, I need to give Synthstatic a listen. Not heard that one in a while.
Ceremony (The other two members of Skywave) are quite good as well:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbVuki4m8lE[/youtube]
Watch out though, apparently there's more than one band called "Ceremony".
Has anyone heard of Fleeting Joys? When I first heard them, I couldn't believe my ears, the MBV influence is so blatant:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuUeluek0xI[/youtube]
I can whole-heartedly recommend their first album "Despondent Transponder"
Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:37 pm
by aen
my bloody television wrote:
I know Loveless is great and all,
I think it would be a pretty good album if it had any low end.
Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:54 pm
by my bloody television
not enough low end? If I turn To Here Knows When up loud enough the third chord in the verse progression always shakes and rattles the room around me. Although I guess any record'll do that if you turn it up loud enough. If you get a chance to see them live they take care of the low end...I was right in front of the left subwoofer and my pants + cheeks were shaking uncontrollably during the "holocaust"

I dunno though, this is coming from someone who will never grow tired of that album. I agree with veteransdaypoppy, there's a shit ton of press and praise regarding it, but most is warranted I'd say. But I don't want to force people to enjoy music that I like.
Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:57 pm
by my bloody television
also, wizard, I hadn't heard of Guitar before, but I really like it a lot. great stuff.
Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:34 pm
by aen
yeah, i've heard the "turn it up louder" argument for loveless before. But in my not so humble opinion, if your record has to be deafening to hear the bottom half of the band, you're doing it wrong.

Re: Shoegaze
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:52 pm
by Wizard
aen wrote:yeah, i've heard the "turn it up louder" argument for loveless before. But in my not so humble opinion, if your record has to be deafening to hear the bottom half of the band, you're doing it wrong.
i do agree with you Aen, the record lacks low end, but i don't think it really needs it. The bass plays a lot of chords, and they don't really use it to hold down the low end as much as hold down the rhythm. They did remaster it and i must say, the low end is much more prominent, but what i found was that i really like the original mix, it had a bit more texture.
I can understand why people don't like it. When i first heard it i was like this is boring stupid and not music. than i got high.
I just understood it. It was ABOUT the textures and the blend. Ah! so good! And since i'm on the topic of textures, my bloody television, i'm glad you like guitar. That album is really wonderful for relaxing.
Spiteface, Ceremony & The Fleeting Joys.. Thank you very much
I had to take a Re-listen to that Fleeting Joys record. Obviously MBV inspired, but amazing in their own right.
Also, i love Aen's consistent *not so humble opinion* on low end and 9v Batteries. Always makes my day
