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I got my Traynor (early 70s BassMaster) only a couple months or so ago, and I love it, even though I'm passed the honeymoon phase. It's fat and ballsy and just makes me want to sell most of my other amps...

Which is why it's sorta become irreplaceable, so I'm thinking of maybe looking for a good backup. They're extremele scarce here in the EU, it's pretty much impossible to just buy a second one.

Does Orange make a vaguely similar circuit? I read the YBA-1 is sorta related to the Marshall JTM45 and/or the Fender Bassman. So will something like a 50watt plexi (1987x) get me in similar territories? I'm basicly looking for something that's fairly easy available and affordable on the used market. So it doesn't HAVE to be vintage/ptp/boutique or whatever, though I obviously wouldn't mind as long as I don't have to spend more than $700 or so It also doesn't have to break up that early, I've got plenty of pedals to push an amp that's got a little more headroom.

I don't think Orange makes something similar, but it is the Canadian Bassman.

Traynor > America


And they're still cheap enough that you should be able to get one WITH shipping or less than $700

doommeow wrote:Traynor > America


And they're still cheap enough that you should be able to get one WITH shipping or less than $700

Don't think so

Add import duties, VAT, custom fees and a step down transformer to that, and you'll end up with a figure that's roughly twice of what the amp itself would cost me...

So no love for the Marshall 1987x? I used to have a '72 Superbass that I stupidly flipped, as well as an 1959SLP ri...And they both sounded spectacular imo, especially the Superbass. Too pricey and too loud though. Which why the 1987x caught my eye. They seem to pop up on the used market now and then, for okay-ish prices...

frigid midget wrote:I'm basicly looking for something that's fairly easy available and affordable on the used market. So it doesn't HAVE to be vintage/ptp/boutique or whatever, though I obviously wouldn't mind as long as I don't have to spend more than $700 or so

Basically the reason I didn't get that amp when I was looking for my first "real" amp.

How clean can it be with 2 power tubes and what tubes are you using?

I read somewhere that it was basically a Bassman with some minimal tweaks here and there but I haven't compared them side by side.

Don't know how it compares to a Bassman, and I don't even have a clue what tubes are in it. My tech is putting fresh tubes in it as we speak, I was still rocking the tubes that came with the amp when I bought it. They were noisy and worn, and the amp STILL sounded sick.

So I probably can't make a good judgement untill it's been serviced and cleaned up and retubed...But it had VERY little clean headroom the way I had it. Meaning I got a nice thick creamy fuzzy drive tone at rehearsel levels. I used to think I was into loud clean pedal platforms...Untill I realised that an amp like the YBA-1 can make me sound just as awesome, only with one less pedal

But there's obviously somethingto be said about powerful clean amps. The Traynor doesn't exactly threat all my fuzz pedals equally nice.

Marshall 1987 and I think 1986 is the 50 watt bass model. Sovtek Mig-50. I guess the Bugera 1959-type heads could work with a pair of output tubes pulled. Hell, any 100 watt 4-input Marshall could probably work that way.

I think the Traynor is voiced like the Marshall "Bass" preamp, so the bass variants or modding the lead variants to the bass preamp will help.