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New Roland Pedals

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:24 pm
by moogboy
Roland is, in what may be the single most shocking occurrence in the entirety of synthesizer history, the first of the major manufacturers getting into eurorack. However, they're also advertising them as guitar pedals (???).

http://www.interstatemusic.com/969148-R ... Pedal.aspx

http://www.interstatemusic.com/969150-R ... Pedal.aspx

http://www.interstatemusic.com/969146-R ... Pedal.aspx

http://www.interstatemusic.com/969147-R ... Pedal.aspx

I for one welcome our batshit insane, misguided newcomers to the eurorack world, but MOTHERFUCKING HELL WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST ADD A SINGLE MOTHERFUCKING HP SO IT WASN'T A GODDAMN ODD NUMBER JESUS FUCKALL CHRIST.

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:44 pm
by tremolo3
FUCK
Now we are talking...

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:54 pm
by blakestree
Those look really interesting. But, I'd say about $100, each, too expensive...

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:06 pm
by backwardsvoyager
links above were dead but http://www.matrixsynth.com/2015/04/new- ... eaked.html
they're eurorack modules that are self contained so they can also be used as normal tabletop effects units, using either AC or eurorack power. now THAT is pretty neat.

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:15 am
by Deltaphoenix
Very much a way for Roland to dip their toes into Eurorack without fully committing. Super smart way for such a huge corporation to do this - it's a pedal, it's a module, etc.

I look forward to hearing demos of these with multiple instruments and as pedals or modules.


edit: Well, maybe Roland is really about to commit big to Eurorack -
http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/mus ... nth-619442

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:46 am
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
am i reading this right that they are also audio interfaces?

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:58 am
by Deltaphoenix
No, they use audio to change the sub-modules, like a modernized tape memory.

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:38 am
by backwardsvoyager
the more i read about these the more awesome it sounds. like $299 sounds like a lot for these kind of euro modules but with the dual mono/stereo functionality, 24-bit knobs, re-programmability/expandability they kind of kill a lot of stuff already on the market. i really want the scooper to use with machinedrum.

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:31 am
by Deltaphoenix
Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D. wrote:am i reading this right that they are also audio interfaces?
I just read the specs from another source, I think you be right??? Hmm.

I am pretty impressed with these as well as the Roland/Malekko Collabo analog modules…Big news for Euro as a whole from Roland.

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:34 pm
by kbit
The delay goes down to 20 microseconds. I want those delay resonances so hard.

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:55 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
Deltaphoenix wrote:
Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D. wrote:am i reading this right that they are also audio interfaces?
I just read the specs from another source, I think you be right??? Hmm.

I am pretty impressed with these as well as the Roland/Malekko Collabo analog modules…Big news for Euro as a whole from Roland.
it would be cool, i have no idea and i don't wanna extrapolate from some specs. would make rationalizing the $$$ on these a bit easier if you were also in the market for a 2in/2out interface + a crazy effects unit or whatever.

i'm mostly just happy that Roland is finally releasing some stuff that people are seemingly pretty excited about.

maybe akai can get their act together too...?

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:23 pm
by lordgalvar
Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D. wrote:
Deltaphoenix wrote:
Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D. wrote:am i reading this right that they are also audio interfaces?
I just read the specs from another source, I think you be right??? Hmm.

I am pretty impressed with these as well as the Roland/Malekko Collabo analog modules…Big news for Euro as a whole from Roland.
it would be cool, i have no idea and i don't wanna extrapolate from some specs. would make rationalizing the $$$ on these a bit easier if you were also in the market for a 2in/2out interface + a crazy effects unit or whatever.

i'm mostly just happy that Roland is finally releasing some stuff that people are seemingly pretty excited about.

maybe akai can get their act together too...?
The System 100 reboot stuff is neat, but these digital effects are a little too expencive/cheesy/something to me. I can't put my finger on it but they look almost like something that tries to do too much at the expense of doing it well. It's like that Randal head with the pop out preamps...yea, it was neat but would it replace my model T or something like that? I guess it is going in the right direction but it has always bothered me (and felt like a "margins thing", which is probably why they had to brand these as standalone/guitar/modular effects to appeal to a broad market for the numbers to make sense) that they just emulate things like the 303/808/909 instead of just trying to reissue it. I guess the interface thing would help, but most people using this would probably already have some kind of interface. I am excited that Roland is branching out and am very hopeful that they come out with some neat stuff in the future. Still, the Malekko collaboration looks good (which I will hopefully get to try when I get back into synthesis). I guess, as usual, I will wait to see how they fit in and how they sound in real settings(or hands on try one)

As for Akai: I really hadn't looked at them in a few years and I went looking for an MPC for my friend...they really fucked that one up, imo.

edit: just messing with margins

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:11 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
yea i feel u man, i think the system 100 is pretty cool too. i could care less about the hype machine. 808s, 909s and all that. they are dope, but like, i bought a snack pack vanilla pudding at the grocery store and it came w/ some 808 & 909 sound packs.

i'm not even like thinking these roland euros is super amazing awesome, but
people being even lukewarm excited about something roland is doing, is a biggg big difference from alot of there recent stuff.
and the only reason i'm excited about that, is because i really hope they give us a super dope modern SP404 in the future

akai is probably worse. they fucked up so many things. the newer mpcs are garbage-y, which then they discontinue their flagship products. the hardware controller/software shit looks halfway done. even the mpc1000 (which is amazing in my mind) is only redeemed because some disgruntled japanese guy decided to make his own OS for it (JJOS). the way akai made it was trash (so many key features left out.)

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:35 pm
by kbit
Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D. wrote:i could care less about the hype machine. 808s, 909s and all that. they are dope, but like, i bought a snack pack vanilla pudding at the grocery store and it came w/ some 808 & 909 sound packs.
:lol: :thumb:

Re: New Roland Pedals

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:28 pm
by lordgalvar
Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D. wrote:i could care less about the hype machine. 808s, 909s and all that. they are dope, but like, i bought a snack pack vanilla pudding at the grocery store and it came w/ some 808 & 909 sound packs.
It's totally true, haha. I guess I kinda beat around the bush and meant the same thing. They are all digital things with the 808/909/303 (which is the basis of the roland aira line) sound packs and I guess I meant they should just get it over with and reissue them which is just a cash grab to constantly sell better "emulations" which ties into what bothers me about the new module/effect things. That usb link thing with the Aira kind of just meh and strikes me as something liek Beta Max/Minidisc/Sony fuckups. I was thinking about it a bit and I guess what kind of bothers me is paying for individual things when really they should just be patches in one unit (with some kind of matrix programmer or whatever). Why not make a neat box with the same functionality that included all this stuff instead of individual units? I guess they need something to sell? The basis of that System 1 is swapping synth emulations, why not carry that idea over to the effects realm or even just add it to the System 1. It's just kind of weird.

This "plug-out" just kind of strikes me as something similar to what Akai did to the MPC (not nearly as bad...but it ties the user to a computer). And plus, didn't Nord do this over 10 years ago?