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four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:01 am
by Rotlung
trying to cover some ground and get interesting sounds using only four pedals plus a wah, no fuzz or overdrives for this board. mostly playing dirty, volume knob for cleans. going for the realm of ride, catherine wheel, swervedriver. so shoegaze but not that airy reverse reverb sound, more rock/pop. listening to some bands i like I made a small list of effects id like to squeeze on the board.

wah
phaser
vibrato
delay
reverb
tremolo

i have an eqd grand orbiter that does vibrato and phaser. got a boss tremolo but could use something more choppy. considering a delay/verb combo pedal. so with those i have a spot free. i don't dick with much more than phaser and delay in the past so im open to ideas. if you were playing this style of music and limited to four pedals what would you grab? could consider flanger or chorus?

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:12 am
by kbit
Volume knob for dirt, hell yeah :thumb:

One technique that PumpkinPieces turned me onto that I find really helpful is using a short delay with moderate feedback and continuously pitch bend any chords you play. That way you have manual control over the chorusing and a regular delay when you want it. Something with presets or tap tempo would be flexible, too. Perhaps a DD20?

And if you want a choppier trem than the boss perhaps thr eqd humming bird, lots of people dig that pedal for the hard chops.

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:36 am
by Muff_Diver
Most of those bands used pretty standard boss pedals, so if you don't want to get into the "airy" shoegaze stuff, i'd keep it simple and stick with basic stuff.

Personally, I don't think there is any delay better than a DMM, so that would be the only non-boss suggestion. But for delay and reverb, a dd anything and/or an rv3/5 would probably be sufficient. Maybe a eqd Dispatch Master if you want to go non-boss?

If it were me and I didn't need any dirt pedals (lol) i'd use:
Small Stone->DMM->Neunaber Wet-> Tremolesscence

OR

You could just get a twin and have tube driven reverb and tremolo.

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:02 am
by resincum
DD-7
TC HOF
NEO CLONE
W/E TREM

you're in business

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:52 am
by onyxrhino
Hmmm...no dirt? That's a new one for this genre of put-together-a-shoegaze-pedalboard threads.

I'd probably go with...

Digitech Whammy (for vibrato and extreme dives)
Boss RV-3 (for a mixture of reverbs and delays)
Dunlop TVP-1 or Boss PN-2 or Seymour Duncan Shapeshifter for tremolo (depending on what you want to do with it)
Small Stone (though if you can find a phaser which oscillates, that would work well)
& a Wilson Wah (because they sound great)

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:00 pm
by Rotlung
Muff_Diver wrote:Most of those bands used pretty standard boss pedals, so if you don't want to get into the "airy" shoegaze stuff, i'd keep it simple and stick with basic stuff.

Personally, I don't think there is any delay better than a DMM, so that would be the only non-boss suggestion. But for delay and reverb, a dd anything and/or an rv3/5 would probably be sufficient. Maybe a eqd Dispatch Master if you want to go non-boss?

If it were me and I didn't need any dirt pedals (lol) i'd use:
Small Stone->DMM->Neunaber Wet-> Tremolesscence

OR

You could just get a twin and have tube driven reverb and tremolo.
yeah, they used boss and other 'cheap' pedals but that doesn't mean I can't find my own preferences for similar sounds. I'm not trying to recreate their exact sounds, but get in the ballpark with pedals that inspire me to do my own thing. I have a dd7 and rv5s are everywhere, I was looking at the dispatch master to take up both spots. DMM is a great suggestion! too big for my little board. I loved my old big box reissue.

Thanks dudes I'll check out some of the stuff I'm not familiar with. I always use dirt and delay, phase sometimes but not much reverb, chorus or any of that. This project im trying to keep my rig incredibly small so I'm working of a PT nano, might go up to a jr though. We do a 90s rock thing but we have been getting vibey on new songs so I want to have some tools to really press more in that direction. I'm working with a Carbon copy, amp verb, germanium boost, cheap mxr flanger, eqd phaser at the moment.

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:07 pm
by Inconuucl
Afterneath -> Algal Bloom-> Wampler Latitude -> No Memory -> reverberation machine? :animal:

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:30 pm
by DarkAxel
EQD Ghost Echo, EHX DMM, Catalinbread Paraodidieieeleliodelieodldoloa, DOD/Digitech PDS 20/20

:animal:

plenty of spacy sounds, interesting sounds and experimentation to be had

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:37 pm
by kbit
Ohhh dude the paredolia could be sweet!

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:42 pm
by Eivind August
There's this new Mr. Black pedal that's a multi head delay and reverb in one small box. Thinking that would be pretty gazey in itself, and save some space.

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:01 pm
by doommeow
Because I like any opportunity to drop some Kobayashi Maru science, let's cheat abit...

Pigtron Philo King. Yes, it has gain. The dirt/grit thing is IMO the worst part of the pedal and I basically never use it, but big clean gain sustain stuff can be a strong tool for endless feedback and whatnot. It'll also cover your choppy sounds, swells, etc.

Industrialectric RM-1n Reverb Machine. Really cheating here as it has two gain circuits, but come on. It's too damn sexy and perfect to not consider. Make go for a custom build with footswitchable and/or expression controlled gain, if possible.

I'll second the PDS 20/20 recommendations. It's large enough that you can mount a mini TB loop on top (I dig the Moen, best bang 4 buck) if that's how you roll.

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:56 pm
by PetZounds
I would use:
-Montreal Assembly Goodbye24/Count to 5 (set as a reverse delay with a slight pitch change, or maybe set for chorus-y sounds)
-A flanger like the Monorpice that is super awesome and cheap
-Dr. Scientist BitQuest to cover any other kinds of stuff I might want
-Catalinbread Belle Epoch with the internal trimpot turned way up as a boost

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:27 pm
by julius_deane
Disaster transport
Pulsar
Your orbiter or a whetstone or sibling
Zoom CDR

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:33 pm
by sylnau
Mid-Fi Overdrive
Mid-Fi Demo Tape Fuzz
Iron Ether Xero DLX
Empress Superdelay

Re: four pedal board for gazey rock

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:40 pm
by Chankgeez
flanger