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how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:44 pm
by scienceman
I accidentally bought a big-box mini q tron and Russian bassballs and i have no idea how to use them. Have any of you found any ways to use stuff like that without sounding like funk or a 70's porno?
Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:54 pm
by sylnau
If you don't play funky rift, it won't sound funk.

Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:57 pm
by moogboy
Feed it into a distortion, it'll sound like a really crazy synth effect. Play volume swells into them and your swells will sound super weird and cool. Throw it into a true bypass loop with a reverb or delay with the Mix to 100% dry and you'll get some really interesting textural stuff going.
Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:57 pm
by Bassus Sanguinis
scienceman wrote:I accidentally bought a big-box mini q tron and Russian bassballs and i have no idea how to use them. Have any of you found any ways to use stuff like that without sounding like funk or a 70's porno?
Dude, funk and 70's porno rule.
Otherwise, try placing it creatively wrong for great signature sounds for songs. For example after fuzz and delay for rottengaze long notes. Or place it in feedback loop for pedalcore bat-shit crazy fun.

Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:00 pm
by Bassus Sanguinis
Also, ring modulation and wah and envelope filter makes fantastic nonsensical backing sounds if You're at all into that.
Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:05 pm
by autopilot
radiohead'd
watch the outro
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvtT0fzItYw[/youtube]
drive a tremolo into it
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tejkhFyjoGE[/youtube]
Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:04 pm
by scienceman
Ya I'll deffinently try screwing around with them and other pedals at the same time once I can get them on my board.
Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:58 pm
by Inconuucl
Put it behind a brickwalled fuzz and it's suddenly reponds really well to dynamics, I do this with my Meatball.

Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:20 pm
by sylnau
I like fuzz > filter especially Unpleasant Surprise.
Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:32 pm
by goosekevin
autopilot wrote:radiohead'd
watch the outro
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvtT0fzItYw[/youtube]
drive a tremolo into it
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tejkhFyjoGE[/youtube]
Came in here to post greenwood
Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:43 am
by Jsteed
Them Crooked Vultures - Gunman
Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:29 am
by DarkAxel
I use my AW7 both in front and after distortion. On bass
a) analog synth sound - octaver -> Fingerprint fuzz -> AW7 - self explanatory. Works great for volume swells (microsynthish), because the fuzz drives the filter hard and makes it controlable. I basically do use it as a microsynth emulation (but i can control which part of the sound is active at any given moment, so sort of modular...) inspired by Juan Alderete and such cats
b) before distortion - adds cool texture. Can accentuate the attact or make it sound really obnoxious - all depends on the settings. to me, the Bassballs are pretty obnoxious sounding, drive them into a DS-1 for some fucked up noise rock textures
just generally though - if you don'T play funk, it won't sound funk, as already mentioned. Make underwater sounds. One thing I really enjoy is playing my jazzmaster behind the bridge, especially the low notes, boost it and run it through the AW7 - it sounds like some underground beast waking up.
Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:48 am
by D.o.S.
Turn the bassballs distortion switch on into some fuzz and annoy the shit out of everyone around you.
Atomic Bitchwax basstone is the Bassballs.
Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:18 pm
by DarkAxel
Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:37 pm
by bob the r0bot
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUBcqs0Z9QA[/youtube]