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I just got a Marshall Club and Country 4x10 bass combo, using it with guitar. I played 4 shows with it so far, and the speakers in it cannot handle the 100 watts this thing puts out. Fart out city at full volume, plus I don't think they are very efficient.
I play Sheffield 1290s in all my cabs, and I kinda want to stick with that sound. I play sludgy hardcore. Mostly looking for volume at this point.
My budget is around $200. All speakers have to be 8 ohms.
What do you guys have for me?


As a caveat, this thing rips some serious face. If you see one I would recommend picking one up, or at least trying them out, a serious sleeper amp.

I'm not a speaker expert and can't make much of a recommendation, but the Weber Neo10's are on sale night now, $40 off

https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/neo10.htm

I thought the 410 club & country was a guitar amp, same as the 212. (TGP-ish info: SRV used the 410 early on as a loud and clean amp along with his driven Vibroverbs. Alex Lifeson of Rush used a couple 212s on Moving Pictures and on and off since. I was gear obsessive before I got into interesting music.) Open back speaker cab? What's in there now, Goodmans?

At your price point options are gonna be slim. Budget speaks from Jensen or Celestion, stuff in a buyout at Parts Express, the odd sale or clearance at a vendor. I'd maybe look into finding a deal on the more affordable Jensen Lightning Jet or whatever it is, the black-painted ceramic mag ten. I was scoping one out for a speaker swap I never did and people mainly seemed to like them.

Its the 4150 Bass Compressor from the Club and Country line. I dunno what speakers they are, they just say Marshall on them. Its open back.

I hadn't known about the bass model. It's gonna have the same problem as a bass amp that the tweed Fender Bassman did--an open backed 4x10 is going to have trouble pushing fundamentals on the low E. If you're going for baritone doomy stuff on guitar, some of the same issues will come up pushing the lows. But if you're shooting for guitar range, not so much worry.

The Jensen I was talking about was the Falcon 10" from the Jet Series. Tubesandmore.com (Antique Electronic Supply) has them for $45 a pop. They have some other choices in your price range, too. Look for power handling in watts and sensitivity in dB. You probably want something like 150 watts power handling to have good assurance a quad of EL-34s won't swamp them out, and the more sensitive the speakers the louder they will be at the same input power--I would try not to go lower than 95 dB and see if I can get close to 100 dB if I were looking for volume and headroom live.

The mod 70's look good. I wonder if the extra cash is worth the 4dbs added sensitivity..
I closed the back and the sound was tighter, but more directional.

4dbs increased sensitivity per speaker will be a big difference in perceived volume.

Spend a little more and load it with Eminence Ramrods. Easily the best 10" I've ever owned. Very well balanced, great with cleans or dirt, and they sound huge!

Holy Schnikes wrote:Spend a little more and load it with Eminence Ramrods. Easily the best 10" I've ever owned. Very well balanced, great with cleans or dirt, and they sound huge!

I'm thinking of grabbing 2 of those, and going from there. Could be coolio.

Do you have a link to your band? Sludgy hardcore is my favorite. I have no speaker recommendations, but I saw one of those amps on Craigslist like two years back and always regretted not buying it.

BoatRich wrote:Do you have a link to your band? Sludgy hardcore is my favorite. I have no speaker recommendations, but I saw one of those amps on Craigslist like two years back and always regretted not buying it.

http://gardens831.bandcamp.com/track/he ... that-meant

This one of them.
Not as sludgy as my other project, which alas has no recordings yet.

I am really diggin it. It has hella mojo, and for some reason it loves the strangest combonations of pedals you can imagine. I played a show he other day with a ibanez thrash metal into a rat.

WORMDIRT wrote:

BoatRich wrote:Do you have a link to your band? Sludgy hardcore is my favorite. I have no speaker recommendations, but I saw one of those amps on Craigslist like two years back and always regretted not buying it.

http://gardens831.bandcamp.com/track/he ... that-meant

This one of them.
Not as sludgy as my other project, which alas has no recordings yet.

I am really diggin it. It has hella mojo, and for some reason it loves the strangest combonations of pedals you can imagine. I played a show he other day with a ibanez thrash metal into a rat.

Yo this is tight! I'm definitely gonna start looking into these more heavily as I build up my guitar/bass vi rig. I've really been meaning to get a Marshall of some sort. Does yours have a speaker out?

WORMDIRT wrote: I closed the back and the sound was tighter, but more directional.

I'm assuming you know, but just in case, don't completely seal the back because the airflow is how the tubes cool themselves. Amps with bad ventilation are often notorious for dramatic meltdowns.

BoatRich wrote:

WORMDIRT wrote:

BoatRich wrote:Do you have a link to your band? Sludgy hardcore is my favorite. I have no speaker recommendations, but I saw one of those amps on Craigslist like two years back and always regretted not buying it.

http://gardens831.bandcamp.com/track/he ... that-meant

This one of them.
Not as sludgy as my other project, which alas has no recordings yet.

I am really diggin it. It has hella mojo, and for some reason it loves the strangest combonations of pedals you can imagine. I played a show he other day with a ibanez thrash metal into a rat.

Yo this is tight! I'm definitely gonna start looking into these more heavily as I build up my guitar/bass vi rig. I've really been meaning to get a Marshall of some sort. Does yours have a speaker out?

Thanks dude!
Yeah, it has a 2 jacks, and a switch for 4 or 8 ohms.
That feel when I have 4 cabs but can't use them with it because none of them run at 8 ohms...

Gone Fission wrote:

WORMDIRT wrote: I closed the back and the sound was tighter, but more directional.

I'm assuming you know, but just in case, don't completely seal the back because the airflow is how the tubes cool themselves. Amps with bad ventilation are often notorious for dramatic meltdowns.

I have a "U" of sorts cut out around the power tubes to prevent this. Thanks for the heads up though.