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A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:01 pm
by blakestree
Hey guys,

I'm giving my wife a Twosome with VST mod and a Micro Terror for X-mas. I, also, want to put together a 1X12 Avatar cab for her. Any recommedation for a 12" that sounds really great with fuzz? I'm thinking about one of the Hellatones (leaning toward the 30), but not hard set on that. Must be 8 ohm. Her guitar is a stock Epi G-400 PRO. It wouldn't hurt if it, also, sounded nice with my Tele and driven by a Pro Junior.

Thanks!

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 1:46 pm
by antennafarm
i'd say a great bang-for-buck is the weber legacy. grrreeeeat sounding speaker. get it with a big magnet so it'll stay clean and takes the fuzz.

really, though, a hellatone would probably be great.

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:38 pm
by frigid midget
As long as it's big and loud, and sounds good without fuzz, it'll probably sound at least as good with fuzz.

A WGS Veteran 30 for instance, should be "big and loud" enough for your rig. I personally wouldn't spend too much on a speaker that's gonna be pushed by a small solid state head, so no reason to look further than whatever that's easily available and cheapish :idk:

It's probably just me, but at $120 I don't consider the Weber Legacy a great bang for the buck, at least not for this particular rig :idk:

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:47 pm
by blakestree
frigid midget wrote:I personally wouldn't spend too much on a speaker that's gonna be pushed by a small solid state head, so no reason to look further than whatever that's easily available and cheapish
Hmm, so do you think we might be better served, then, by something like one of the cheap 2X12s from Bugera or Laney? This is only for bedroom studio use, btw. I just wanna feel a sludgy rumble in my gut.

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:59 pm
by The Mad Titan
G12H(55) is awesome as hell with fuzz.

The Junior and Tele with a fuzz would kill through it. Also, I disagree, if the amp sounds good, then all a good speaker will do is help it sound even better, and a higher efficiency speaker will help get more volume out of a small power source.

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:37 pm
by blakestree
The Mad Titan wrote:...and a higher efficiency speaker will help get more volume out of a small power source.
Yeah, I started to splurge and get the Orange PPC112. But, I decided a 16 ohm Vintage 30 might not be the best fit. With the Bugera 2x12 there is 4 or 16 ohm mono and 8 ohm stereo, perfect for my two amps. However, I don't know if the low power of the Micro Terror is really enough to get a 2X12 moving good, in mono. And, the stock speakers are questionable.

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:29 pm
by The Mad Titan
Yeah, the lower the ohms, and the higher the sensitivity the better in this case IMO. In that light you may be better off going with a speaker manufacturer that makes a 4 ohm model, like an Eminence Wizard or Governor, or maybe if you wanted to spend a bit more a Fane Medusa 100 (4 ohm & 102 db).

I have a Wizard, and they're great speakers in a good 1x12 closed back. I had mine in an Earcandy cab before I sold the cab, now it's in the top of a Boogie Halfback cab, and I'm gonna wire it up in the next day or so.

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:44 pm
by blakestree
The Mad Titan wrote:Yeah, the lower the ohms, and the higher the sensitivity the better in this case IMO. In that light you may be better off going with a speaker manufacturer that makes a 4 ohm model.
The Micro Terror can handle a 4 ohm load, but a protection circuit cuts it out if pushed too hard. 8 ohms is optimum.

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:58 pm
by The Mad Titan
blakestree wrote:
The Mad Titan wrote:Yeah, the lower the ohms, and the higher the sensitivity the better in this case IMO. In that light you may be better off going with a speaker manufacturer that makes a 4 ohm model.
The Micro Terror can handle a 4 ohm load, but a protection circuit cuts it out if pushed too hard. 8 ohms is optimum.
Cool, then I stand by my first recommendation all the way, G12H(55).

Those Fanes look yummy though. I'm gonna add a couple of their Medusa 150's or Studio L's to my collection eventually, and already have a pair of their alnico AXA12's in my 4x12 with my G12H(55)'s.

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:16 pm
by chillerthanmost
I like Eminence speakers. I think they sound great and work really well. I've always had other manufactures like Jensen, Celestion, and Weber crap out on me. As far as Eminence, I love their GB128 Legend, it sounds like a fat warm Greenback that takes fuzz very very well. I also have a 4x12 mixed with some canmabis Rex and governors, which also pull the trick off real nice. I think the GB128 is around $75 new, that's a good deal. Even cheaper used.

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:55 pm
by synthezatory
I have to give +1 for Eminence speakers. Go look for a used Cannabis Rex. It's a really amazing speaker for fuzz tones. It won't give you the ice pick attacks when cranking the fuzz pedals, but still have a great balance of highs.

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:55 pm
by blakestree
The Mad Titan wrote: Cool, then I stand by my first recommendation all the way, G12H(55).
Hey, would that work as a bass cab, too, then?

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:07 pm
by frigid midget
The G12H is one of my favorite speakers. I haven't tried it on bass, and I prefer '10s for bass anyway, but if you can't get an extra bass cab, I would think a G12H 55 should do fine on both bass and guitar.

Fwiw: Wgs makes a "replacement", that costs considerably less than the real thing. You might want to check youtube for a clip that compares both speakers though. I'm not saying one sounds better than the other, but the wgs sure isn't an exact replica.

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:39 pm
by The Mad Titan
blakestree wrote:
The Mad Titan wrote: Cool, then I stand by my first recommendation all the way, G12H(55).
Hey, would that work as a bass cab, too, then?
I've used them with a bass tuned to E at lower volumes, but never hit them with any serious wattage or lows.

Re: A good speaker for fuzz?

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:24 am
by blakestree
Hmm, dunno, the G12h(55) almost seems better suited for a baritone guitar. And, and it's $90 more from Avatar! :eek:

edit:
Nah, scratch that. After listening to more demos I see where you're coming from. Although, in that dude's comparison with the Reaper, I actually think the Reaper sounds better.