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PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 2:13 am
by theavondon
So, I'm on tour right now. Third day in, the amp I was using, a Sunn Beta Lead, was turned on and made a solid tone that could not be changed by the preamp at all. The lights on the pre also don't light up.

I bought a mesa m pulse 600 as a replacement, and a week or so later, it cuts out completely, and smoke pours out of my cab.

I buy two Eminence Kappa 15LPFAs, install them in the cab, and turn the mesa on, and it does the same thing the beta did, and then stops, and then more smoke.

Please help me figure out what the fuck is happening.

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 5:42 am
by Derelict78
Fuck man IDK, buy a peavey?

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:56 am
by OddKnowledge
is something wrong with your speaker cable? :idk:

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:59 am
by doommeow
OddKnowledge wrote:is something wrong with your speaker cable? :idk:
Or the wiring inside the cab? (Presuming you didn't change it when swapping speakers)

Power source?

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 10:38 am
by PetZounds
I'm sorry Dono. :no:
Definitely sounds like a wiring issue to me.
If the cab was the same each time, it's likely the culprit.

Does your Mesa work still or has it completely shit the bed?

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 11:04 am
by theavondon
Things I think it might be:

1) A speaker gave out sometime on tour, causing a short, killing the amps.
2) I've been playing in a lot of sketchy basements.

The mesa is totally gone too.

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 11:31 am
by Jwar
theavondon wrote:Things I think it might be:

1) A speaker gave out sometime on tour, causing a short, killing the amps.
2) I've been playing in a lot of sketchy basements.

The mesa is totally gone too.

WHAT!!!! The Mesa blew out too??? Holy fuck dude! I'm sorry that sucks so bad.

Have you contacted Mesa? Won't help you now but hopefully they would be willing to fix it.

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 11:49 am
by Jero
Yea I'm thinking faulty speaker cable/wiring or busted speaker. Very odd.

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 12:13 pm
by excane
Agreed - this is almost definitely a wiring/shorting issue.

Whatever you get to finish out the gigs with, if at all possible use SOME sort of surge protection/power conditioner. Something must have been REALLY wrong to make the Mesa puke :/ That blows dude.

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 12:23 pm
by goroth
Could the ohmage on the cab have gotten messed up causing it to fry amps when driven hard?
Edit. By mixing up series/parallel ?

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 12:29 pm
by grygrx
No advice really, but mojos.

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:38 pm
by Jwar
goroth wrote:Could the ohmage on the cab have gotten messed up causing it to fry amps when driven hard?
Edit. By mixing up series/parallel ?

I also wondered this.

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:48 pm
by AxAxSxS
jwar wrote:
goroth wrote:Could the ohmage on the cab have gotten messed up causing it to fry amps when driven hard?
Edit. By mixing up series/parallel ?

I also wondered this.
or the speaker thing, odd none of the fuses blew and protected the amps.

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 12:33 am
by higain617
goroth wrote:Could the ohmage on the cab have gotten messed up causing it to fry amps when driven hard?
Edit. By mixing up series/parallel ?
Solid state bass amps are pretty tolerant of impedance from 2-16 ohms. One possibility was you blew the driver and it fucked up something in your Sunn's output section, possibly sending DC to your speaker cab.

Re: PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING WRONG

Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 1:01 am
by theavondon
That's what I think happened.