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What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:50 pm
by sylnau
Do you think this is some kind of low gain super fuzz?
There's octave up there?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JDaBRVy4ek[/youtube]
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:56 pm
by Uncle Grandfather
sylnau wrote:Do you think this is some kind of low gain super fuzz?
There's octave up there?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JDaBRVy4ek[/youtube]
got to see them play that tour and chatted em up afterwards. but didn't get into gear. matt was playing a gold top les paul if i remember correctly, but that's all i remember. need to listen to the track on my stereo. on my computer it just sounds like he's double tracking his line in places. probably just straight into whatever amp cranked.
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:36 pm
by Tristan
Wow, pretty weird but great sound indeed, I love it!

The only thing I can guess is that it must be some kind of double tracked guitar but it's played very dynamically and mixed underneath the main guitar by quite a bit so in the later part of the riff that second guitar really comes out bringing that doubled ringing sound out more.
The sound also seems to be quite dark / deep in the bass but it also has some kind of directness in the highs.
I just played a Fender Excelsior amp that did just this very thing actually so that might be something though I think you could also get there with putting a guitar in a mixing desk through a good preamp and work with extreme eq and compression for the secondary guitar track.
I also hear a phaser in there somewhere on the secondary guitar track, it becomes especially apparent around the 1.28 mark and after but I think it's on there before as well though very lightly.
Funny, at first (when I first listened from the beginning) it sounded like a guitar doubled with an old piano underneath it to me.

Nice, interesting stuff, thanks for the link!

Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 2:50 am
by kbit
To me it sounds like a doubled guitar part.
This song is wonderful; thank you for posting about it.
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:25 am
by kbit
This guitar part is super fun to play.
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:04 pm
by LaoWiz
That album is crushing.
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:14 pm
by Uncle Grandfather
For that album, Matt was in a depression and Will was all "hey man lets make an album". separately, matt wrote the music, while will wrote the lyrics. Pretty cool idea. came out gangbusters.
Matt played on a lot of Will's earlier albums too, mostly the bonnie prince billy era. He has a video show...dont know what they are called...named "guitar moves" where he interviews a guitarist and they both play etc. its really interesting.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJDUHq2mJx0[/youtube]
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:58 pm
by sylnau
interesting, thanks!
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:49 am
by in_sherman
great music, all i can say!
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:42 pm
by sylnau
Tristan wrote:Wow, pretty weird but great sound indeed, I love it!

The only thing I can guess is that it must be some kind of double tracked guitar but it's played very dynamically and mixed underneath the main guitar by quite a bit so in the later part of the riff that second guitar really comes out bringing that doubled ringing sound out more.
The sound also seems to be quite dark / deep in the bass but it also has some kind of directness in the highs.
I just played a Fender Excelsior amp that did just this very thing actually so that might be something though I think you could also get there with putting a guitar in a mixing desk through a good preamp and work with extreme eq and compression for the secondary guitar track.
I also hear a phaser in there somewhere on the secondary guitar track, it becomes especially apparent around the 1.28 mark and after but I think it's on there before as well though very lightly.
Funny, at first (when I first listened from the beginning) it sounded like a guitar doubled with an old piano underneath it to me.

Nice, interesting stuff, thanks for the link!

Yes probably some light pahser in there. Maybe a phaser with a blend.
Anybody know a good organic phaser with a blend knob?
I'm tinking Empress Phaser, but it might be overkill for what I need.
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 1:29 pm
by Ben79
Sounds a bit like Green Ringer to me.
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:50 pm
by zRobertez
Yeah sounds ring moddy. Like one track dirty, one track ring moddy. cool song though!
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:43 pm
by sylnau
Just found that I can get similar with my Octron.
Octave up mode 1 (ringmodish) and lower the gain a bit.
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:54 pm
by Uncle Grandfather
sylnau wrote:Just found that I can get similar with my Octron.
Octave up mode 1 (ringmodish) and lower the gain a bit.
Sweet. I know you were after the sound, but Matt has been in Zwan most recently, all over early Will Oldham albums, and his first band was Chavez if you wanna check out more of his music. He's also a pretty regular studio session player.
Re: What kind of fuzz/dirt?
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:12 pm
by Tristan
Just watched that video you posted, that hollowbody guitar, makes sense, one of the double tracking guitars in that track must be that guitar or something similar.
