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When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:20 am
by DarkAxel
What do you guys do when it all changes? The music you play, your taste in effects...

Lately I've experienced a gradual but quite strangely prominent shift in pedal taste and needs and i'm finding it hard to made up my mind about searching for new boner-inducing things

to whom do you turn in moments of need?

WWILFD?

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:27 am
by jasonmitsch
DarkAxel wrote: to whom do you turn in moments of need?

WWILFD?
B/S/T is where you turn. I recently went from wanting MOAR on my pt pro to wanting less and using a PT junior. Same effects though. Just flip gear til you're 100% satisfied.

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:29 am
by Uncle Grandfather
jasonmitsch wrote:
DarkAxel wrote: to whom do you turn in moments of need?

WWILFD?
B/S/T is where you turn. I recently went from wanting MOAR on my pt pro to wanting less and using a PT junior. Same effects though. Just flip gear til you're 100% satisfied.

The merry go round technique :joy:

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:37 am
by DarkAxel
Shit I hoped there is some narrowing-down-technique i'm missing :D :facepalm:

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:42 am
by Uncle Grandfather
DarkAxel wrote:Shit I hoped there is some narrowing-down-technique i'm missing :D :facepalm:
the fact that your tastes are changing is a good thing, and should be encouraged. you'll never be 100% happy with a pedal anyways, or a group of pedals. I'd think your imagination vastly out paces what a pedal can do, so you do what you can with what you have in new and unexpected ways, or buy new pedals and get on the merry go round.

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:45 am
by DarkAxel
Currently, i'm actually trying to do both as i moved my Digitech PDS 20/20 mostly pre-dirt and am using it for a lot of very King Crimson-esque flangers/weird vibratos

but at the same time I'm trying to get rid of some stuff and get something new

the flanger is one side of the change... i'D never expect i'd start liking that cheesy 80's flanger... but it has become an acquired taste due to long exposure to King Crimson :D

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:57 am
by Uncle Grandfather
DarkAxel wrote: i'D never expect i'd start liking that cheesy 80's flanger.. :D
:lol: I know how that goes, its like that song you can't get out of your head. Often for inspiration I'll set up my pedals in a random order and try to dial in an unappealing sound. Then just work with it for a couple hours tweaking slowly, and next thing I know I've got a handful of new melodies and some new useful tones. That's a cheap way, otherwise i'll just buy some new pedals and basically throw them into some pedal chains I know by heart, but I'll stay away from the melodies or chord changes that I usually use those pedals with. Lots of tweaking and changing postitions etc. always bears fresh ideas and tones.

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:13 pm
by Jwar
Dude, you've seen how many times I've changed everything on my board right? Sometimes, it's just fun to mix everything up. Change is good. It keeps you creative.

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:18 pm
by Casavettes
I think in times like this it's better to limit yourself and work within that
Too much to choose from can complicate the matter

Maybe just set up one fuzz, a delay or something? And go from there
Start small
That's what I do anyway

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:28 pm
by doommeow
jasonmitsch wrote:
DarkAxel wrote: to whom do you turn in moments of need?

WWILFD?
B/S/T is where you turn. I recently went from wanting MOAR on my pt pro to wanting less and using a PT junior. Same effects though. Just flip gear til you're dead.
Fixed

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:03 pm
by coldbrightsunlight
My advice is don't get precious about keeping everything unless it's insanely unobtainium and rare so you can't get it back. Not loving a couple of pedz and want something different and need the money? Sell sell sell!

So if your tastes are changing, change what you're eating!

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:05 pm
by patrick
vidret wrote:one fuzz with options or 3 fuzzes? that kind of stuff.
This. Go for one pedal that's versatile and sounds great, rather than several that just do one thing.

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:11 pm
by Mudfuzz
DarkAxel wrote:What do you guys do when it all changes? The music you play, your taste in effects...

Lately I've experienced a gradual but quite strangely prominent shift in pedal taste and needs and i'm finding it hard to made up my mind about searching for new boner-inducing things

to whom do you turn in moments of need?

WWILFD?
This http://www.effectsdatabase.com always comes first in a big quest :doom:

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:03 am
by DarkAxel
strange as it is... i've always had less dirt than now, but a part of my change was exactly that - adding more dirt variations to achieve more combinations and textural changes

so even though i now have a booster, two fuzzes (absolutely different and absolutely divine when stacked), od and a distortion, this is the portion of my board i don't feel like changing at all :!!!: it's the rest, reverb/delays (already partially being taken care of) and mainly modulation that are currently in a vortex... the scariest part is that phasers, which have always been a bit essential for me, are now "old" to me... and i'm getting into flangers and vibratos and it's all so weird

Re: When it all changes...

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:14 am
by rfurtkamp
I've evolved slowly over time, partially because the things I wanted weren't obtainable, and also as I got over the "every song needs 12 tracks of whatever" brought on by analog limits.

I don't sell essential items in the kit that define entire years of time and sound - because I find myself coming back to them occasionally to touch base.

The modulation stuff is the most fluctuating I've found - it's the most touchy for not just what you're playing, but who you're playing with and what you're trying to do with it.

The basic dirt sounds in my head have been there for 20-some years, it was just a case of pedals to make some of that happen didn't become available until the last few years.

What I can tell you in summary is just get what you need and go from there - after a few years, you probably know what the various effects do, and can make an informed decision about what you need to make any particular sound or at least get you in the ballpark.

I have far, far, far more toys than I ever used in extremely expensive studios or on the road, and sometimes, what I've learned is it's the same as it was when I started: sometimes you gotta step on 30 things to make the magic happen, but other times, it's sometimes just one note and a prayer and some silence.