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Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:07 pm
by new05002
I have 2 Moog MF 104m that I run in stereo and I am looking to see if a simple midi controller exists that can be used to sync and control the two units. For controls all I really need is a master on/off and some way to sync their delay times via the clock.

Wondering if anyone out there has any insight into this.

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:14 pm
by skullservant
Disaster Area/DMC might be ALL over this. Especially something as simple as that!

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:15 pm
by new05002
skullservant wrote:Disaster Area/DMC might be ALL over this. Especially something as simple as that!
yea that is one thought. I had one of their units for a timeline/mobius setup. I will check out their stuff to see if they have something compatible with Moog

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:16 pm
by skullservant
If they don't have anything compatable I bet they would make you something. It'd look good for them to also have a Moog controller on top of the Strymon stuff!

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:17 pm
by new05002
I could inquire, the only issue is that I dont wanna drop super bank on it. I could possibly work towards building something but I lack expertise in digital I/O stuff

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:20 pm
by sonidero
You need a drum machine or sequencer to send Midi Clock with dual Midi Outs or a Midi splitter...

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:23 pm
by space6oy
i don't think on/off can be controlled via midi. it isn't mentioned in the manual. far as clock though all you need's a Y cable from whatever midi out you're sending them.

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:27 pm
by new05002
space6oy wrote:i don't think on/off can be controlled via midi. it isn't mentioned in the manual. far as clock though all you need's a Y cable from whatever midi out you're sending them.
From the 104m manual

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Seems the last one listed their should control the on/off

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:30 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
Stereo true bypass looper box (1 footswitch [4dpdt can do it I believe] that turns on and off two independent loops) then add a midi tap tempo board and a midi splitter, it will be 6 jacks 2 footswitches and 2 midi outs. Leave em both on and run them through the stereo loops and you can turn em both on and off with one footswitch, and use the tap tempo to sync them both. :thumb:

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:32 pm
by new05002
Ancient Astronaught wrote:Stereo true bypass looper box (1 footswitch [4dpdt can do it I believe] that turns on and off two independent loops) then add a midi tap tempo board and a midi splitter, it will be 6 jacks 2 footswitches and 2 midi outs. Leave em both on and run them through the stereo loops and you can turn em both on and off with one footswitch, and use the tap tempo to sync them both. :thumb:
that seems like a metricfuckton of cable routing for what could be done with just 2 midi cables and a smarter microcontroller on a unit.

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:35 pm
by space6oy
ah, i didn't read the chart, just the midi section and that wasn't mentioned.

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:36 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
new05002 wrote:
Ancient Astronaught wrote:Stereo true bypass looper box (1 footswitch [4dpdt can do it I believe] that turns on and off two independent loops) then add a midi tap tempo board and a midi splitter, it will be 6 jacks 2 footswitches and 2 midi outs. Leave em both on and run them through the stereo loops and you can turn em both on and off with one footswitch, and use the tap tempo to sync them both. :thumb:
that seems like a metricfuckton of cable routing for what could be done with just 2 midi cables and a smarter microcontroller on a unit.
But it doesn't require much digital midi I/O knowledge to build and utilize.

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:36 pm
by new05002
space6oy wrote:ah, i didn't read the chart, just the midi section and that wasn't mentioned.
all good. honest miss.

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:36 pm
by new05002
Ancient Astronaught wrote:
new05002 wrote:
Ancient Astronaught wrote:Stereo true bypass looper box (1 footswitch [4dpdt can do it I believe] that turns on and off two independent loops) then add a midi tap tempo board and a midi splitter, it will be 6 jacks 2 footswitches and 2 midi outs. Leave em both on and run them through the stereo loops and you can turn em both on and off with one footswitch, and use the tap tempo to sync them both. :thumb:
that seems like a metricfuckton of cable routing for what could be done with just 2 midi cables and a smarter microcontroller on a unit.
But it doesn't require much digital midi I/O knowledge to build and utilize.
i generally would prefer a more elegant solution then a brute force method.

Re: Question about midi control with dual moogs

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:45 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
these cats make a lot of midi stuff geared towards pedalboards...maybe they have something that would work for u?

http://www.moltenvoltage.com/products.html