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Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ever

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:36 pm
by Ryan
I was thinking that now that I like programming the Spin so much and I like reverb so much that it could be time to start pondering a new kinda Reverberator pedal... one that would be stereo in and out, have 8 patches that I'd make, analog mix and treble and bass for the wet signal, infinite decay on every patch, control 2 other reverb parameters like pre-delay or pitch shiftings or modulations or gatings etc, expression control, 125B box... small but powerful and easy to use, pretty deep but no menus, a good niche for a reverb pedal I think.

It would have 8 patches of any kind of reverb sounds that rule.. so whatcha guys liking for reverb sounds?

Here's my initial 8:

Hall - long, dense, classic kinda reverb sound
Room - short, fast, classic kinda reverb sound
Plate - metallic, bright, classic kinda reverb sound
Spring - hoping to nail this sound, classic kinda reverb sound
Gated - tracks your input level, interesting sound effect kinda reverb sound
Modulated - warbles for wet signal, interesting sound effect kinda reverb sound
Octave - pitch shift the wet signal up or down, weird sound effect kinda reverb sound
Something Unusual - Something weird that you guys are gonna think up and surprise me with, weird sound effect kinda reverb sound

I know, another reverb pedal, there's lots of super powerful reverbs already, but reverb is a big seller in the guitar pedal world.. big as distortion/fuzz/delay.. and I'd really like to make a more personal and custom and customizable Reverberator pedal that will sound fantastic and be powerful and intuitive to use.. I think it'll be worth it bigtime and compete well with the super-computer reverb pedals.

PS - This project isn't started at all and doesn't have a time frame or anything like that, just curious what you guys think would be the 8 best reverb sounds to make.

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:02 pm
by hollowhero
It would be awesome if you could select the pitch shifting interval on the octave/shimmer patch (from 1 octave down to 1 octave up in half step intervals)

A lo-fi reverb mode would be cool too...maybe with some bit crushing/ring mod affecting the wet signal

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:02 pm
by skullservant
This is awesome Ryan. I think this would be great competition for other reverbs.

Would it be possible to have a floating parameter knob for each mode like on the BitQuest? Again not sure but these are my initial thoughts about each mode and something you could do to them.

Hall-

Room- I always use room reverbs for mic'd cab type sounds when I DI. Don't have much to add to this one other than if you could get it to do mic'd cab type super close reverbs that'd be cool.

Plate- Would be neat if this had like a regen or dwell knob to it, for subtle oscillation

Spring- It would be awesome if on Spring mode you could have a knob control saturation on the 'tank' to overdrive it a bit. My favorite sound EVER but not sure if it's possible to code for you. Could you have one of the knobs turn into 'gain' for that mode?

Gated- Would be cool if you could dial in normal gated reverb for stuff like drums, but then also have it so the parameters could go completely over the top with their gating as well

Modulated- Would be cool if you could code a knob to go from chorus to vibrato, but I guess really it would just be a speed knob

Octave- This would be awesome! I don't really have anything to add to this, will be cool to have octave down reverb

Unusual- Not sure if it's been brought up (probably has been) but if you could do a reverse reverb that would be cool! Not sure if anyone has come up with a modifiable code for it or not.

I also like on the Reverberator that you thought outside the box enough to have that Leslie emulator. Something that no one would even ever think of to include. If you did that with this that would be equally as awesome. Just something that no one would think of, like ping ponging reverb, or an oscillating reverb, something quirky but totally useful.

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:59 pm
by lonelytourist
A Mangled Verb-esque distortion verb combo would be awesome for the eighth slot.

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:47 pm
by Bellyheart
I am excited. If it's gonna be true stereo I think the unspoken parameter should really flex on that.

The lofi verb sounds cool as well. I like the gated effect but when I briefly had a holier grail the feature was hard to really operate unless I had a compressor in front.

Maybe some kind of slow attack reverb with long tails. Kind of a Doppler effect. Maybe that overlays with the modulated.

You could set rise and fall.

I like that you inquire so much about new ideas with this community.

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:14 pm
by sonidero
Bellyheart wrote:I like that you inquire so much about new ideas with this community.


Awesome... If it's stereo you should do some weird panning crushed reverse reverb or something, take advantage of the stereo to do what reverb shouldn't do... :joy:

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:59 pm
by sylnau
-reverse reverb
-reverb with some kind of flange to it
-crackle dirty reverb
-octave down reverb (why not)
-robot reverb
-room reverb
-plate reverb
-stutter reverb

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:47 am
by backwardsvoyager
sylnau wrote:-reverse reverb
-reverb with some kind of flange to it

YES! I was gonna suggest a reverse patch and a FLANGEVERB patch. With controls for speed and resonance.

Seriously, how cool would flangeverb be?

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:42 am
by Bartimaeus
For the modulated verb, it'd be cool to have two choruses at different speeds or something (although maybe that's already how it's done?). It could sound a lot richer than just a standard chorus.
Something like a flange or phase verb would be v v cool, since there's basically nothing like them on the market currently.
A reverse reverb would be v cool as well, or even one with a few type of shapes.
Also, ability to oscillate weirdly on many of them would push it further into unusual territory!

And "hold for infinite" would be cool if feasible with the Spin!

This idea of making two pedals with the Spin chip reminded of Neunaber pedals. One can download any of their pedals into a unit that one has, but only using one pedal at a time. What about trying something like this with the BitQuest, perhaps even mixing up a set of different types of patches? Perhaps it's just too all over the place and tedious, but I do like the idea of reverb and distortion being different Quests or something. Though it also may not make sense from a marketing perspective.

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:38 am
by Atrox
backwardsvoyager wrote:
sylnau wrote:-reverse reverb
-reverb with some kind of flange to it

YES! I was gonna suggest a reverse patch and a FLANGEVERB patch. With controls for speed and resonance.

Seriously, how cool would flangeverb be?

Whoa, I'm in for a flangeverb! You guys have the best ideas!

I'd wanta very spacious reverb like the WET, then the short plate 1 from the mini RRR, and a cool spring. Maybe some shimmer and the FLANGEVERBERATOR :!!!:

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:58 am
by rustywire
Oil can, a la Fender Echo Reverb

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:31 pm
by 01010111
Atrox wrote:
backwardsvoyager wrote:
sylnau wrote:-reverse reverb
-reverb with some kind of flange to it

flangeverb

FLANGEVERBERATOR :!!!:


*see ehx's flerb


I think this is awesome! Totally knew you were gonna revamp the RRR one day :joy:

For the modulated verb some kind of vibrato that effected only the first instant of the reverb as opposed to shifting/modulating the entire ocean of verb would be pretty effin' sweet (kinda like when you take a stick out of the fire and make shapes with the smoke that drift away, except with sound). Also it would be cool if you could control the rate, the width of the vibrato so you can go anywhere from a light chorus to sea-sickness

Totally agree that the pitch-verb should be adjustable in small increments for those of us that want some out of tune shimmers.

For the weird verb how about a bit crushed verb with a tone control? The trails would degrade into a digital soup, and using the tone control that soup can be as dark and murky or squelchy as you want :idk:

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:37 pm
by sylnau
wfs1234 wrote:For the weird verb how about a bit crushed verb with a tone control? The trails would degrade into a digital soup, and using the tone control that soup can be as dark and murky or squelchy as you want :idk:


I like your style. :thumb:

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:44 am
by colin
sylnau wrote:-reverse reverb
-reverb with some kind of flange to it
-crackle dirty reverb
-octave down reverb (why not)
-robot reverb
-room reverb
-plate reverb
-stutter reverb


I don't have the faintest clue what robot reverb is, but I think I need it in my life.

Re: Let's Ponder: The Ultimate Best 8 Reverb Patch Sounds Ev

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:46 am
by goosekevin
sylnau wrote:-reverse reverb
-reverb with some kind of flange to it
-crackle dirty reverb
-octave down reverb (why not)
-robot reverb
-room reverb
-plate reverb
-stutter reverb



All of this sounds so cool
I think, be ause the RRR already exists, that this could be a platform for entirely unorthodox reverb sounds
:idk: