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starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:19 pm
by pigmaker
i want to try this out, but not put the pedal in danger obviously
it's got the spot for 2 9v's on the bottom
it's in really good shape as far as these old mutron iii's go. the power supply is the original. it was tuned and gone through by richard lingenberg

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:43 pm
by Chankgeez
I've got nothing for you on this, but I'm curious:
what do you think you're gonna get when you starve the circuit and what makes you think you're gonna damage it if you do?

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:31 pm
by pigmaker
i dont know anything about pedal electronics, i was just putting that out there as a "please let me know if i might break my expensive pedal"

i heard a starved mutron iii was used on sir psycho sexy, which could be baseless hearsay bullshit, but id like try it out if i can do it safely
mutron iii for the win circle gets the square

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:52 pm
by DarkAxel
honestly, I seriously doubt you can damage any pedal by starving it ;)

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:15 pm
by Derelict78
well if it can take batteries you can starve it. when the batteries drain so with the voltage.

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:34 pm
by kosta
Check with someone more knowledgeable than me for sure, but yeah, I don't think giving it less than the rated voltage will hurt it. If I had to guess - I bet it will probably work to some extent down to about 12v. You could either use run-down 9v batteries (you can check them with a multimeter to see what their actual voltage is.) Or you could use a variable AC transformer (variac) to sag it if you have a plug for it. It might sound pretty cool. I know when I sag one of my Korg MS-20 filter clones it sounds pretty badass. Gets all warm and growly. Curious to hear what the Mutron does. I wonder if the envelope will work correctly without full voltage?

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:30 pm
by pigmaker
yeah this is gonna be fun. it will probably make the mutron iii more gainy, i just hope it's in a good way. if youve never used one before, there's a gain knob which also controls the sensitivity of the envelope.

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:51 pm
by greyscales
You won't hurt anything by starving it.

Can't imagine it sounds good, but report back if you try it.

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:13 am
by Doctor X
the modulation pedals i tried at lower voltages just stopped and didn't do anything, but i don't know that one.

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:31 am
by coldbrightsunlight
Starving it definitely won't hurt, but I haven't tried much other than fuzz pedals that actually does interesting stuff when starved, most seem to just stop working pretty quickly below their rated voltage. Can't hurt to try though!

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:18 am
by pigmaker
well it runs on 18v, this might change the parameters of starving it..shrug

i dunno, sir psycho sexy sounds like a wah to me anyway

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:05 pm
by pigmaker
mildly related...

i just pulled a dying greencell 9v out of a smoke detector that was bleeping every few minutes

should be awesome in my doom bender or any other fuzz i have lying around

actually it will probably rule the most in the ghost face

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:10 pm
by pigmaker
mutron iii related, rather than starting a new thread....

Image

see the mutron in the bottom right? theres an extra switch at the top. anyone know what that is?

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:40 pm
by Chankgeez
Not sure, but I don't think those Mu-trons are true bypass. So, I'd guess it might be a true bypass switch.

Bet you'd probably find an answer somewhere on a Grateful Dead forum. Or you can PM dubkitty, he might know.

Re: starving a mutron iii?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:07 pm
by pigmaker
yeah, it was a repost from facebook, some guy just said it was a bypass because he removed the normal switch when he put it in that thing with the other pedals

thank u :hello: