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Candy Apple Red Jaguar+Red Tort+Lipstick Pickups=Oh yes.

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:46 pm
by Noise...
Part of my recent EY Guitar Parts order included a set of their vintage style lipstick pickups. I've wanted a lipstick equipped Jaguar for a few years now, but the options have always been fairly expensive pickups, then a ton of work to make them fit.

EY sells a set of three vintage style lipsticks for about $40. That was worth a gamble to me, even though I'd end up with an extra lipstick pickup. I was getting a red tort guard for this particular Jag anyway, so I took the chance. The pick guard is printed tortoiseshell, but it's a good quality print, and still looks pretty good. It wasn't until I noticed the same pattern in one of the other red tort guards that I ordered that I realized it was a print, so it's definitely convincing.

I'm quite glad I did! But I'll cover the sound a bit below. First I'll go over mounting them - which is the major stopping point for many who want lipstick pickups in a Jag. I'm a bit light on pics for assembly, but hopefully some clear descriptions and a nice demo will make up for that.

First off on fitting them, the baseplate needs modified. The pickups themselves fit perfect. The baseplate, however, extends significantly beyond the pickup itself.

What I did to remedy this was use some heavy duty metal snips to simply cut off one end of the baseplate. This removes the screw mounting option from that side, so doing so causes some stability issues if you're planning on mounting them with a screw.
My idea was simple - use the baseplate in conjunction with a secondary metal holder. There are a lot of ways you can do this, but I went with the fastest and easiest route.

I cut two thin strips of metal sheeting. I found it with a small box that was made out of it, but basically any thin metal will work. It just needs to be strong enough to stay steady, yet thin enough to bend to shape.

Next, I unscrewed the baseplates. I slid a metal strip between each pickup and baseplate, then re-tightened. This, when looking at the pickup from the top, gives you a sort of cross shape.

From there, I set the pickups into their respective cavities, and adjusted them to be centered, and the correct height. I then bent the metal strips I fashioned to the correct shape for the pickup height I wanted - letting the top parts rest on the body where it will be covered by the pick guard.

I used painter's tape to secure the metal strips in place. This, in turn, secures the pickups in place as well. Something like Gorilla tape or duct tape would likely hold far better, but I was looking at keeping it entirely reversible, and having no residue.

The end result is two evenly placed lipstick pickups in a Jaguar without any body mods. They're sturdy, and are holding in place just fine. Similar brackets could be fashioned to screw into the body, but for my uses these are working just fine.

Sound-wise, the lipsticks are very, very responsive. They're on the bright side, but not ice picky. There's a hint of jangle to them, and they're fairly low output. They contrast very well with traditional Jaguar pickups, and I've been enjoying them with fuzz quite a bit. They shine on clean tones though. I'm quite happy with the tone from them, especially at the price. Not only that, but I still have another one left.

Here are some pics and demos. I'll update this with some shots of the metal strips and how the pickups are held in place when I do a much needed string change in a few days.

Demo:
https://soundcloud.com/noisemaker-effects/squier-vintage-modified-jaguar

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Re: Candy Apple Red Jaguar+Red Tort+Lipstick Pickups=Oh yes.

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:29 pm
by Gone Fission
Can you hone in on how they contrast to the Jag pickups?

Re: Candy Apple Red Jaguar+Red Tort+Lipstick Pickups=Oh yes.

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:15 pm
by julius_deane
Damn son

Re: Candy Apple Red Jaguar+Red Tort+Lipstick Pickups=Oh yes.

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:29 pm
by kosta
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Re: Candy Apple Red Jaguar+Red Tort+Lipstick Pickups=Oh yes.

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:12 am
by dubkitty
SCHWING

Re: Candy Apple Red Jaguar+Red Tort+Lipstick Pickups=Oh yes.

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:43 am
by skullservant
Niceeee

Re: Candy Apple Red Jaguar+Red Tort+Lipstick Pickups=Oh yes.

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:50 am
by Noise...
Gone Fission wrote:Can you hone in on how they contrast to the Jag pickups?


The lipsticks are a lot more open and jangly. They're less compressed, and have a lot of clarity. They're also significantly more responsive, and they LOVE fuzz. Throw a heavy fuzz in front and maybe some reverb and it's instant APTBS.

I really like them. I haven't touched my traditional Jag since getting them installed, though part of that is just the fact that it's a new toy and shiny. :lol:

Re: Candy Apple Red Jaguar+Red Tort+Lipstick Pickups=Oh yes.

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:22 am
by kbit
I've been more into jangley guitar tones recently and this hits the spot.

Re: Candy Apple Red Jaguar+Red Tort+Lipstick Pickups=Oh yes.

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:26 pm
by Gone Fission
You're tilting me heavily toward throwing these in a Fernandes Strat clone that I've wanted to do something different with for a couple years. There's a ridiculously complicated multi-Strat switching scheme I saw ages ago that might be sweet -- lots of series and parallel options and lipsticks are supposed to love series.

Re: Candy Apple Red Jaguar+Red Tort+Lipstick Pickups=Oh yes.

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:43 pm
by Noise...
Gone Fission wrote:You're tilting me heavily toward throwing these in a Fernandes Strat clone that I've wanted to do something different with for a couple years. There's a ridiculously complicated multi-Strat switching scheme I saw ages ago that might be sweet -- lots of series and parallel options and lipsticks are supposed to love series.


I might need to make the third switch a Series/parallel switch. The bass cut is almost worthless on these, so it would be a better use...

I say go for it. It was under $40 for the set of three, and I'm loving them. I used it on some demos for my new reverb pedal that just went up, and it sounds pretty great. These pickups love reverb as much as fuzz. :lol:

Re: Candy Apple Red Jaguar+Red Tort+Lipstick Pickups=Oh yes.

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:27 pm
by Gone Fission
Noise... wrote:I might need to make the third switch a Series/parallel switch. The bass cut is almost worthless on these, so it would be a better use...


Good to know. I had been thinking master tone and a G&L-like bass control on the Strat, but that sounds just as useless in all likelihood. I'll probably do some dual tone configuration, then.