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Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:13 pm
by lotus_eater
Is anyone familiar with the Frequency Shifter plugin in Ableton Live 8? If so, I was just curious if there was any kind of pedal that could achieve this effect.
Here's an overview of it:
http://www.macprovideo.com/hub/ableton-live/abletons-frequency-shifter-device-what-is-it-and-how-do-i-use-it
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:23 pm
by sonidero
A PHASER??? There are quite a few pedals that could be used to change the Frequency of something...
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:35 pm
by Doctor X
i was wondering myself as to whether anyone ever did a pedal version.
i dont have ableton but i use this one in cakewalk sonar:
http://www.valhalladsp.com/valhallafreqechoit can sound similar to a phaser at certain settings but it tends to be cleaner and chews the sound up less, while still keeping the sound movement
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:40 pm
by sonidero
Some Phasers have their own sweep and sound but there are a lot out there...
https://www.google.com/#q=frequency+shi ... 16&bih=586
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:54 pm
by lotus_eater
Are there any that let you choose the LFO waveform like the plugin?
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:55 pm
by lotus_eater
Are there any that let you choose the LFO waveform like the plugin?
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:14 pm
by sonidero
MOOG??? Quasar DLX???
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:40 pm
by kbit
Quasar DLX seems like a bad-ass phaser. Eleven wave shapes. Dayum.
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:50 pm
by Doctor X
a frequency shifter is different to a phaser!
there are rack modules but i havent seen any pedals
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4XFPgLoyak[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oAlFj4aIvM[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjYseb_08OM[/youtube]
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:56 pm
by Doctor X
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-t2rnL0BHY[/youtube]
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:59 pm
by sonidero
Yes different but so are chorus and delay but you can get a delay to act like a chorus because they are using the same processes... A guitar signal has multiple overtones associated with each note and would be hard to shift all those frequencies by the same amount, that's why you see them more in use with synths which can provide a clearer tone or signal... There are multiple pedals that could be used to shift the frequency of something... Here is some webage...
Phasing/chorus effects: Used in small amounts, Frequency Shifting can create wonderful phasing/chorus effects. On guitar, electric piano or anything you’d normally use a chorus on, try a shift of a few Hz (just using the fine control) with the Wet/Dry knob set to 50%. Try experimenting with the LFO to create more traditional chorus effects.
Alien/Robot Voices: Try shifting a vocal by around +/- 500 Hz. Use Wet/Dry to taste.
Tuning Drums: Used in small amounts, frequency shifting can make a nice alternative to pitch shifting when tuning drums. Use in the range of +/- 100 Hz the results will still sound natural. Leave the Wet/Dry control at 100%.
Frequency Shifting Delays: Make your own frequency shifting delays by placing a Frequency Shifter after a Delay device on a Return Track. Set the Delay’s feedback to 0% and use Live’s own feedback routing to send the Return Track back to itself. You’ll need to enable the Send on the Return track manually as Live disables them to prevent feedback disasters.
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:04 pm
by htsamurai
if we're talking about ableton effects in pedal form, we need to get Fade to Grey going. I MEAN DAMN REALLY
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:07 pm
by 12XU2A3X3
I think the reason you don't see any hardware analogs in the pedal world is due to cost. True frequency shifters are very compex and require a lot of circuit to accomplish.
Re: Ableton Frequency Shifter
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:03 am
by Obulus
The Alesis Akira/Ineko has a frequency shifter mode, they are pretty hard to find though nowadays.